@Terhou
murder has to be shown to be actually preplanned , in this case yes a suggestion was made , but that was all it was , it cant be proved that a solid plan was put into place to do it
That isn't actually correct. What is required for murder is an intention to kill or cause serious harm, but that intention can be formed on a spur of the moment basis. The issue here is that there is reasonable doubt in both cases.
yes , thank you , i was trying to form what i know , but im not an expert in all the technicalites of it , so didnt know really how to phrase it properly like you have , but yes your right , there was reasonable doubt at least they got some time .
personally i think juries should be done away with and a panel of judges hear cases and also decide the sentances . its always struck me as bloody ridiculous that 12 people with no clue about the law are pulled in for service , many times reluctantly , as it means disruption from their jobs , many dont want to to it , but its hard to get out of , and these are the people that are sitting through hours of evidence , some of which might be going past them and when it comes to murder trials this is where it all falls flat i believe , the poor sods are in a positon where they no doubt believe the defendant is guilty , but because of the old reasonable doubt thing they aquit , which in the states if theres a death sentance on the table they naturally will do .
i dated a police officer years ago in my 20s . it was only casually ,he used to talk about his job alot and one of the things he said was that criminals will often pick a jury trial as theres less chance of a guilty verdict . dont know if this is true or not . but it is what i remember him telling me .