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Philip Morris - here to save the world

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supermoonrising · 03/08/2021 07:56

In 1987, Philip Morris (famed for the Marlboro brand) released a series of advertisements that pictured smokers "talking" to the reader, with statements like "Please don't tell me my cigarette smoke is harmful to you. There's just no convincing proof that it is." and "I know there's no proof my smoke can hurt you." In 1992, a review estimated that secondhand smoke exposure was responsible for 35,000 to 40,000 deaths per year in the United States in the early 1980s.

In 2012, Philip Morris began a suit Monday against Norway, claiming that the Scandinavian country's ban on the display of cigarettes in stores violates European competition rules.

In 2015, the company sold 850 billion cigarettes.

In September 2017, Philip Morris International announced the establishment of the Foundation for a Smoke-Free World, stating that it would support it with almost US$1 billion of funding over the next 12 years. It’s annual profit for the year 2018 was around US$7 billion.

More than one hundred public health organizations have taken a strong stance in rejecting collaboration with the Foundation. The American Cancer Society stated, "This attempt by Philip Morris International to paint itself as a public health partner is manipulative and dangerous. It is a new twist out of the tobacco industry’s deadly playbook, but nobody should be fooled. It’s a continuation of a decades-long effort to paint over tobacco’s role in spreading death and misery around the globe."

In 2021, the CEO said “I want to allow this company to leave smoking behind,” Philip Morris CEO Jacek Olczak said in an interview with the Mail on Sunday. “I think in the U.K., 10 years from now maximum, you can completely solve the problem of smoking.”

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SW1amp · 03/08/2021 07:57

What’s your point here?
This feels like a thinly veiled post from an anti smoking charity
Yawn

DotDotDotDot · 03/08/2021 08:00

What's your AIBU?

Hopdathelf · 03/08/2021 08:04

So your point is anti-smoking legislation has finally worked by making it less cost effective for firms with the result they offer healthier alternatives or pull out of markets altogether. That’s a good thing surely.

supermoonrising · 03/08/2021 08:05

No AUBU, simply wanted to highlight the amazing work this health charity has been doing for the people of the world the last few decades. Looking forward to their next line of products!

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Hopdathelf · 03/08/2021 08:11

Very childish.

supermoonrising · 03/08/2021 08:13

@SW1amp
This feels like a thinly veiled post from an anti smoking charity.

Since circa 2017, Philip Morris is an anti smoking charity! Did you not read all the way through? After helping to kill millions of people, and decades of lobbying and lies to try to keep the money train on course, they’ve decided it’s time to move on. Looking forward to their next ventures.

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supermoonrising · 03/08/2021 08:18

@Hopdathelf
I don’t anything a company which has lied and lobbied for decades at the cost of millions of lives does is a “good thing”.

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PJsEveryday · 03/08/2021 08:20

I know I've just woken up and am still sleepy and all that but this is a weird post 🤔

Hopdathelf · 03/08/2021 08:22

God, you’d better not do any digging into what oil and rubber companies did in the past or you’ll be thrown into complete apoplexy.

Market forces driving innovations that are more health or environmentally friendly is a good thing. It’s a counsel of perfection to expect every firm to have a totally unblemished record.

Sparechange · 03/08/2021 08:39

It’s the quite childish and belligerent attitudes like this that are a barrier to big corporations changing their behaviour for the better

If moving away from their previous stance is met with derision and sarcasm, companies won’t do it
And then where does that leave us?

@supermoonrising
Sorry but I think this is quite a pathetic post

If anything, reading this post makes me feel a lot more positive towards Philip Morris for having the courage to do the right thing, in spite of idiots with this ‘ah but they used to be awful’ attitude

SW1amp · 03/08/2021 08:41

[quote supermoonrising]@SW1amp
This feels like a thinly veiled post from an anti smoking charity.

Since circa 2017, Philip Morris is an anti smoking charity! Did you not read all the way through? After helping to kill millions of people, and decades of lobbying and lies to try to keep the money train on course, they’ve decided it’s time to move on. Looking forward to their next ventures.[/quote]
It’s clearly not a charity, is it

It’s a listed company making money for millions of shareholders around the world, by selling a product that the public wanted to buy, and governments allowed their citizens to buy

Now the legislation is tightening, they are looking for new things to sell so they can keep making money for shareholders.

I think you need to go back to bed and/or read up on basic market forces economics

Sparklingbrook · 03/08/2021 08:43

Strange post. And clearly not an AIBU. What's the point?

longwayoff · 03/08/2021 08:59

You're supposed to pay MN for advertising. Are you a shareholder in Philip Morris?

SamusIsAGirl · 03/08/2021 09:02

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Sparklingbrook · 03/08/2021 09:09

What's Loose Women got to do with anything? I have been on AIBU, yes, I'm on it now Usually there's an AIBU, I see the vote is enabled but no idea how that works.

Maybe I need another coffee...

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