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Another no friends thread

33 replies

Lykkeli123 · 01/08/2021 14:33

I live in the Manchester area. Walking through the city centre yesterday, it was absolutely heaving with groups of people, and I felt sad and depressed that I don’t have my own group as such.
I know people will suggest to join clubs, which is helpful, but I don’t think it’s being able to meet people that’s the issue, it’s just that people aren’t that fussed about me.
I don’t think people strongly dislike me, it’s just all a bit , meh. I also feel like most people only socialise within their immediate circle, at work for instance, and can’t really be bothered if you don’t work with them or see them often.
I’ve always tried to stay in touch with ex colleagues and the like but I gave up as you can tell they aren’t that bothered.
I have one friend, a lady who’s around 20 years older than me. She’s very kind and has supported me. However, we only see each other every 1-2 months and she always seems very flat as in bored or distracted when I speak, it may just be how she is but after around an hour there’s not much more to say to each other.
I have another friend who’s a gay male, he’s very sociable and out often, but it’s not a close friendship as such.
I have been unfortunate in that I’ve had male friends in the past but they usually end up flirting or making comments about the way I look, even though I know not all males would do this. Like I had one who I thought was cool, then I posted a photo of myself in a dress on holiday and he was like “Mmm wow I really can’t stop looking at that photo” even though he had a girlfriend, was really disrespectful.

I am quiet and shy and I did wonder if I come across as standoffish, but I am always smiling and polite. I do try to talk to people and message to meet up, and it’s always like “Oh yeah we will have to meet” but they would never contact me.

I have a partner I live with who’s great, but I don’t want to end up dependant on him as what if he were to leave one day.

Not sure what advice there is to give me, I just didn’t expect to be so lonely at 30 and miserable.

OP posts:
Lykkeli123 · 01/08/2021 14:37

I seemed to get on well with many people in a job I left 3 years ago, I have all their contact details but again if I don’t message them I will never hear from them. I see a lot of new colleagues have joined so that’s where their interest lies now I suppose.

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SallyLovesCheese · 01/08/2021 14:47

I hear you, OP. It was my birthday yesterday. Only 5 people turned up to my gathering at my house; three are more my husband's friends and the other two were my parents. I felt mildly embarrassed and upset all afternoon. None of my oldest, closest friends came. I have virtually no friends close to where I now live.

I haven't seen the people I used to call my best friends in over 3 years. I have, several times a year, suggested a meet-up and been met with "I can't do the next couple of months, but maybe later in the year" which always comes to nothing. I've realised that they're not my best friends after all. I feel very lonely most of the time.

Sorry, I don't know what the answer is, but I'm older than you and in the same position. I can only say, find things to fill your time so you can keep busy and always be open to talking to people at groups and things. Then, fingers crossed, you'll find someone you connect with.

robotcollision · 01/08/2021 14:51

I'm sorry you feel lonely but genuinely puzzled by this comment you made:

I know people will suggest to join clubs, which is helpful, but I don’t think it’s being able to meet people that’s the issue, it’s just that people aren’t that fussed about me

Is it that you don't really allow your personality, your passions and interests to shine through in conversations? Or are you passive and do you expect other people to drive the conversations? Do you seem genuinely interested in others?

What do you want from friendship? What do you think you offer in return?

I really would join clubs. Start doing things that fascinate you - sports or arts or music, an eco conservation or spiritual/religious group. There must be something in life that really sparks your interest. If you do it more often, you meet people who share that passion and you connect via it. The interest becomes a key topic of conversation and gradually, through it, people open up with each other.

Some activities generate closeness more quickly than others. Sports and choirs seem slow burn as you don't really talk much during them (except running club ime) but if you join a creative writing class, an Alpha course, or an acting class, these have in-built devices for getting people to open up and make it easier to bond.

Also, I think the point you make about being too dependent on your OH is a good one. It's possible to be busy without friends. If you are out at dance class or sports training 2-3 times a week and have some weekend hobby too, that's enough to keep you socialised outside the marriage. Friendships will probably form out of these gradually anyway.

Twelveisthebestnumber · 01/08/2021 14:59

It's really tough but I do think clubs are the way forward if you struggle with this area. Do you have any passion for something, does anything intrigue you, have you ever wanted to be part of something bigger? There will absolutely be something out there for you. Taking the first step is the hardest but just do it. Go online and sign up. A gym, running club, fitness classes, MeetUp. Absolutely anything will introduce you to more people and the more you meet the more chance you have of making a connection. DH and I have a hobby we do together and this has been amazing to meet other people. Good luck.

DeathStare · 01/08/2021 15:00

I'm in Manchester. I'll be your friend. Genuine offer.

robotcollision · 01/08/2021 15:10

@DeathStare

I'm in Manchester. I'll be your friend. Genuine offer.
This has made me realise that a number of my very good friends I either met online or through a friend I met online. Don;t rule that out. It's great for slightly introverted people. We can be less shy online than face to face, then my the time you actually meet up in person, you have so much to talk about you forget to be shy.
Reloxa · 01/08/2021 15:11

The bumble app has a friendship section which is good.

Lykkeli123 · 01/08/2021 15:20

Thanks for the suggestions. @SallyLovesCheese I’m really sorry to hear that.

What I meant was that I could indeed go to these clubs etc and meet people, but I feel like they’d probably not be that interested in knowing me or seeing me outside the club. I just don’t think I’m very charismatic or likeable even though I try.
Some people are constantly out and have tons of people messaging them and I don’t know how they do it.

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Lykkeli123 · 01/08/2021 15:21

I did try the bumble BFF but sadly not many people replied on it or were just flaky.
Or I had one lady who just replied in one word abbreviations to everything

“Yh hun u xxx”

“Work n u xxxx”

Don’t mean to sound snobby, it was just hard to have a conversation.

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TragicKingdom · 01/08/2021 15:25

@Lykkeli123

Thanks for the suggestions. *@SallyLovesCheese* I’m really sorry to hear that.

What I meant was that I could indeed go to these clubs etc and meet people, but I feel like they’d probably not be that interested in knowing me or seeing me outside the club. I just don’t think I’m very charismatic or likeable even though I try.
Some people are constantly out and have tons of people messaging them and I don’t know how they do it.

I get this. I often go to things and see other people form connections and friendships whilst I'm the awkward onlooker.

I'm also quite shy and have been accused of being standoffish before so I do push myself to be a bit more outgoing.

It's so hard though isn't it.

DoingItMyself · 01/08/2021 15:27

Meet-up, OP. Literature and Laughter for Ladies. A great group, very sociable.

SallyLovesCheese · 01/08/2021 15:29

Agreed about watching others make connections. I joined a running club once and tried to be friendly but not too desperate-looking! After about a month, I was walking through the park later the same day as a run and saw the other six or seven women from my class sitting together celebrating one of their birthdays (banners, cupcakes etc). No-one had mentioned it to me that morning at the run. I'm still mystified to this day about what I did to get myself excluded.

DoingItMyself · 01/08/2021 15:30

Manchester book club and more
You won't bump into me, I left, but the problem was me not them. Give it a go.

Miaowse · 01/08/2021 16:03

I read a book about one woman’s quest to find a best friend.

www.amazon.co.uk/MWF-Seeking-BFF-Yearlong-Search-ebook/dp/B004W3IDM8/ref=nodl_?tag=mumsnetforu03-21

She treated it like dating and went on a date a week and by the end of the year she had lots of new friends and enough material for a book.

No advice as I am rubbish at making friends and self-sabotage when someone does make friendship overtures.

SisterMonicaJoansHabit · 01/08/2021 16:10

I've done the joining clubs thing.

There's quite a few strong personalities and they clash. So it wouldn't be the most pleasant time to try and invite them all to something outside of the hobby (at the hobby they don't have to play with each other).

Most of my friends are online. Even ones I know in person usually live miles and miles away, so it's like they're just online friends.

romdowa · 01/08/2021 16:12

I'm in the same boat and struggle to even meet new people as there are zero groups in my small town except sport and I've a chronic pain condition, so that rules that out. I know loads and loads of people but I never ever seem to be able to break past acquaintances and unless I message I never hear from them. When I do message then I get two word answers , so I've stopped bothering at all now.

Lykkeli123 · 01/08/2021 16:54

I’ve just redownloaded the bumble BFF app, will see if I get anywhere with it.
Sorry to hear that others are in the same boat, it just makes you feel like there’s something wrong with you.
I have a group of friends from high school, but I see them about twice a year if that now and it’s clear we’ve all grown apart. I see pictures of them out with workmates, for a while I kept trying to keep it going by messaging on our group chat and suggesting things but majority of them wouldn’t reply.
We met up around 2 months ago and I just felt like a stranger on the sidelines. I’ve posted that I was on holiday recently and none of them asked about it or anything, i don’t bother with them anymore there’s no point.

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Elkey · 02/08/2021 16:14

Google Vanessa Van Edwards and read what she has to say on her website and watch her videos. She has a book too.

You seem lovely but you're obviously not giving the right vibes. It's likely not what you're saying or anything about the person you are; it's probably little unconscious things you're doing/not doing.

Mary46 · 02/08/2021 16:38

Op its hard. I find cliques awful. Meet friend for cuppa tomorrow. Went cinema on my own today but gets me out. Find women dont want new people in their groups if I meet friends of friends.. Im 48

daisyfraser · 02/08/2021 17:09

How off-putting, OP, that you seem to have ignored a genuine offer of a friendship from another poster here. Unless you've connected by PM or something.
If not then I'm confused by your outlook.

Hereforthedramaz · 02/08/2021 17:17

Hi OP
I'm in a similar situation.

During lockdown a local lady setup a new bookclub for women around my age and it's been surprisingly amazing.

Only 6 of us (although 2 extras joined later) and we all met and got know each other at the same time (so it didn't feel like joining an existing group) and it being a small group works so well for me. We've read a range of books but the catch-ups don't stay on the book for long!

I know it's luck but it's such a lovely group and I've started dog walking with one of the ladies and planning dinner with some others.

It was set up via the Nextdoor app, maybe you could put a note up about setting one up?

HauntedDishcloth · 02/08/2021 17:44

Voluntary work could also be an option if there are any opportunities in your area for something you already like doing eg animal care, wildlife, gardening. There's less pressure as you're there to do something & you naturally have something to talk to others about. Most organisations have social events too.

jesusmaryjosephandtheweedonkey · 02/08/2021 19:51

Aww op I'm Manchester area and would meet for a coffee

Qwerty789 · 02/08/2021 20:08

@Mary46

Op its hard. I find cliques awful. Meet friend for cuppa tomorrow. Went cinema on my own today but gets me out. Find women dont want new people in their groups if I meet friends of friends.. Im 48
Here's a little tip...calling groups of friends "cliques" is a sure fire way to never ever get invited to one. IT's rude, it's mean spirited, and it shows your disdain. Everyone can pick up those vibes. You're not 12. Cliques don't exist. It's just groups of female friends that you are jealous of.
SerenShine · 02/08/2021 20:18

I disagree. I think some groups are cliques. It's not mean or rude, it's a reality.