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I am but desperate, how do I get better if I can’t keep anything down?

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Elleherd · 01/08/2021 10:56

Underlying issue is month long Chron’s flare that hit joints as well. (also wheelchair disabled and managed to develop a heart speed and rhythm problem on top of things)

Am now locked into a cycle of tricking my body into accepting steroids with water in the morning for long enough (1hr) they’re probably getting absorbed, but nearly all attempts at very light gentle eating and most drinking, result in vomiting, either straight back up or within three hours.
In the last seven days I’ve been pushing myself in attempting to drink especially water and eat small amounts twice daily. Have successfully kept down a piece of scrambled eggs on toast, a half bowl of soup, a slice of bread and three milky coffees in a week.

It might sound ok, but it’s two out of fourteen, and I ’m beyond debilitated, bedridden, permanently grey and exhausted, (suspect the heart issue is being created by the state of me) and the exhaustion and pain involved in throwing everything else back up isn’t helping along with the lack of nutrition.

I’m doing all I can not to swallow air, eat slowly, small amounts etc but can’t find any rhyme or reason to the success’s vs the failures.

TMI maybe: but just before vomiting, always feels like bowels are about to go, but turns to vomiting instead.

Medics don’t seem to think there’s any big deal and treat me as if I’m in my 80’s and it's all to be expected. IBD nurses aren’t responding and GP’s happy for me to continue like this for another three weeks to next appointment. I understand I’m low priority but feel I’m existing waiting to see if things just randomly get better or worse while my life falls apart.

Any experience, knowledge, ideas for getting/keeping food/nutrition into someone in this position? (lifelong vegetarian If it matters.)

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Elleherd · 07/08/2021 00:08

I'm so amazed and grateful at all the information that everyone's been contributing! Flowers
It kind of feels self indulgent to be updating about my health, but you've all been so caring, kind and helpful when i needed to talk about how ill I was it feels only right to be able to share good news about it improving. Everything's coming together, no one's said anything direct, but there's a recognition that for whatever reasons I have not been receiving good care and it has lead to harm, and me becoming very ill, and I'm being put through lots and lots of examinations, scan, blood test etc and very propped up with all sorts of stuff, (including anti-emetics) and it feels kind of like being a battered old vehicle with lots of different problems being put through a massive repair, service, and MOT before getting back out on the road running properly!

There are some issues as to how to treat the stuff on the lungs as normal approach doesn't work with the other treatments but hopefully things will sort themselves naturally without needing to be actually treated, but it's all being watched very carefully to make sure, and I am being taken good care off.

I'm still feeling depleted and rough but nothing like as badly. Smile

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RightYesButNo · 07/08/2021 02:59

I’m so glad things are going in the right direction, and just can’t believe they didn’t treat you with anti-emetics before now! I really do know what it’s like to just vomit everything, and people try to be so helpful with suggestions because they really do care, but sometimes your body is sick enough that it really will just vomit absolutely everything, no matter what, and only medical intervention is going to stop it. And once that happens, you really need help because your potassium can get low (something that can really only happen if you’re losing everything you eat and drink and still being sick even when empty) and that’s what can lead to heart palpitations, etc. And a potassium IV is not huge fun; it burns a bit.

So. Hopefully they can keep an eye on your aspiration so that you don’t have to worry about further infection, get you topped up so you’re not low on nutrients or dehydrated, and get you set up so that hopefully you can climb out of this flare from hell.

Good luck, OP.

LoveFall · 07/08/2021 03:34

I am so happy you are getting all that care, finally. I was so worried about you and I know how bad a flare can be. And how helpless you feel. Good for you for asserting yourself.

Keep on keeping on!

Elleherd · 07/08/2021 03:54

RightYesButNo So much has been chucked into me I don't know what a lot of it was, but if it's the only one that burns then one of them must have been potassium IV. Must remember to ask.

LoveFall tbh I didn't really assert myself, Blush aspirating vomit into your lungs appears to negate the need!

Annoyingly though it looks like the anti emetics have worn thin as as have started being sick again, but a least in a way more controlled environment with instant removal etc.

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RightYesButNo · 07/08/2021 14:52

Hmm. Ok. I just don’t know enough about Crohn’s unfortunately so I assume the IBD team will know more. I do know that with anti-emetics, they have a type that will just stop it from coming back up for a few hours. Unfortunately, if whatever is making you sick is determined to cause vomiting anyway, it will wait until the “end point” of the anti-emitics working (say, four hours maybe) and you’ll just be sick anyway. So they have to sort out the cause (not just your disease).

I’m hoping now that you’re there, they’re doing things like checking for maybe a blockage (you can still have sickness out the bottom end, even with a blockage) or taking a look to see if your gallbladder or pancreas are inflamed.

Re: advocating yourself. Remember, it’s really just asking questions. And we should never do less for ourselves than we would do for our children. If it was your child, you would feel it was your responsibility to ask. And with your own body, it’s DEFINITELY your responsibility to ask. Apparently, they only give you one body (complete shite, if you ask me) so you have to do the best with it you can. Flowers

JackieQueen · 07/08/2021 15:56

Really sorry for what you're going through op, hope you get better very soon Flowers

MilesOfSand · 10/08/2021 18:26

Hope you’re doing ok, @Elleherd Flowers

Elleherd · 12/08/2021 04:42

Medically in terms of what I came in with, things are going pretty well (don't want to jinx it) and going in the right direction, and care or at least intentions of care is generally good if occasionally patchy and difficult to get at times as they are stretched horribly thin, and extra high need patients on the wards adding to it.

I’ve written a heartfelt post about the rest, and whats going on here that’s not so ok and how to balance getting my needs met with an impossible situation, but am worried about daily Mail etc picking it up.

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KatieB55 · 12/08/2021 08:24

Ask your GP to prescribe Fortisip - small volume high nutrition. It's given in hospital for malnutrition.
Hope you get better soon.

Elleherd · 08/09/2021 04:55

Just an update to say I'm finally getting to go home later today!

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Tomselleckhaskindeyes · 08/09/2021 08:05

omg have you been in that long? I hope this is a period of good health.

ShaneTheThird · 08/09/2021 12:48

How are you feeling op? Hopefully getting stronger each day what you have been through sounds horrendous Flowers

Tomnooktoldmeto · 08/09/2021 13:06

Fantastic news, hopefully you’re on the road to being more stable now and they’ll take better care of you going forward

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