Peanuts in holiday homes?

[WaltzingToWalsingham]

We're going on holiday next week with my friend and her family. My friend and I have been planning the meals and preparing a shopping list. I added a bag of peanuts to the list, because my DC like to snack on them. My friend says we shouldn't have things like peanuts in a holiday house, because it might be used after us by somebody who is highly allergic to nuts, and they could have anaphylactic shock on holiday, an unfamiliar location where they don't know the nearest hospital, might not have phone reception to call an ambulance etc.

I do kind of see her point, but is the "no nuts in a holiday house" rule really a thing? Should we also avoid using other common allergens - milk, eggs, other nuts? What about gluten - will my use of gluten-containing bread in the toaster put people with coeliac disease at risk? Should I be extending this principle to items we consume in my own home - no peanut butter for breakfast in case a tiny amount is spilt on a school jumper and is then carried into the DC's nut-free school? On the other hand, what do people with severe allergies do about going on holiday etc? It must be almost impossible to clean a holiday house so thoroughly that no air-borne traces remain.

What do you do, MNers?
YABU = you avoid taking allergens such as nuts to holiday houses
YANBU = you take whatever you like on holiday

I have a life-threatening peanut allergy and have had severe reactions without actually eating them (in a pub where others were eating them for example).

I would in no way expect holiday accommodation to be nut free prior to me using it, but I do expect it to be clean!

I’ve never considered not taking food on holiday in case someone after me has an allergy to it.
It’s never crossed my mind.
But if someone has a severe allergy wouldn’t they have a holiday home deep cleaned beforehand anyway? As they also would have no idea if the guests before had taken nuts in there.

I see her point, but I think you’re good to go with your nuts.

I have a severe latex allergy but don’t expect to go to a holiday home where no one has ever had balloons. There’s so many allergy triggers you can’t avoid everything.

[quote WaltzingToWalsingham]@YesIReallyDoLikeRootBeer Eh? I most certainly am not being flippant or treating it as a joke. I have friends and relatives with allergies. If you look at my OP, you'll notice that I do see my friend's point, but I hadn't heard about this rule before and was interested in how much of an issue it actually is, and where people draw the line.[/quote]
Your comment about peanut butter getting on your child's jumper came across flippant. Because, YES if your child went to school with peanut butter on their jumper and came into contact with a child with a severe peanut allergy it could be very dangerous for them.

Severe nut allergy in our family and I’d never expect people to not take what they want in a private holiday let.

However I’m very careful what I eat when I’m in close contact with people I don’t know.

I always go outside to fart when staying in a 'holiday home' in case I'm hit with the unexpected 'Frebreze Supplement'.

Booked a holiday home in Somerset once and found peanuts under the sofa. yes, my dc does have a peanut allergy.

I re-cleaned

If someone has such a severe allergy that even a peanut left in the hoover will cause AS, how the hell do they even leave the house ?

@YesIReallyDoLikeRootBeer Ok. I actually included the comment about peanut butter on a school jumper BECAUSE I can see that this has the potential to be dangerous - although parents are not usually asked to stop their DC eating peanut butter before school. So I was curious to know why one potentially dangerous activity (giving kids peanut butter before school) was ok, and another, similar one (eating peanuts on holiday) is not. But thank you for your thoughts.

Looking at the responses on this thread, it appears that most people feel that eating nuts etc in a holiday house is fine, and that people with allergies take extra precautions to keep themselves safe. Thanks for your responses, everyone! I will probably leave the peanuts off the list this time (because I don't want to cause friction with my friend), but include them on future holidays, and eat them carefully/wash hands afterwards.

I no longer eat nuts in trains, house rentals, etc because of the risk to allergy sufferers. I can understand people saying that zero risk is not realistic but I think it’s a small sacrifice to make to decrease the risk of harm to someone.

I wouldn't even think about taking nuts to a holiday home. Why would you.

[quote WaltzingToWalsingham]@YesIReallyDoLikeRootBeer Ok. I actually included the comment about peanut butter on a school jumper BECAUSE I can see that this has the potential to be dangerous - although parents are not usually asked to stop their DC eating peanut butter before school. So I was curious to know why one potentially dangerous activity (giving kids peanut butter before school) was ok, and another, similar one (eating peanuts on holiday) is not. But thank you for your thoughts.

Looking at the responses on this thread, it appears that most people feel that eating nuts etc in a holiday house is fine, and that people with allergies take extra precautions to keep themselves safe. Thanks for your responses, everyone! I will probably leave the peanuts off the list this time (because I don't want to cause friction with my friend), but include them on future holidays, and eat them carefully/wash hands afterwards.[/quote]
Then I apologize for reading the tone wrong.
As I said in my original response I also believed you should be able to bring peanuts on your holiday.

I never thought about this, but I take my dogs and they won't let a peanut uneaten if they can help it.

I’m currently staying in a holiday home and the owner has left a welcome hamper containing pots of jam, three mini bottles of wine and two packs of peanuts.

I wouldn't even think about taking nuts to a holiday home. Why would you.

Because some people like eating them?

I would never eat nuts in an enclosed space in public but wouldn’t think twice of eating them in a holiday home

I’ve never thought of this, but may now try to avoid peanuts in a holiday home. It seems to be the most threatening allergen and a very minor inconvenience for helping to keep people safe.

I have a severe allergic reaction to a particular type of fruit, but it is my responsibility to look out for it and take steps (carry an epipen, know where the local A&E is, alert friends or colleagues to possible symptoms).

It's nice that y'all aren't eating peanuts in holiday homes and stuff, but seriously, it's not necessary.

People with severe allergies are in the minority, we don't expect the world to revolve around us.

I say this as a parent of a child with a food allergy - and DP has a nut allergy.
If you're anaphylactic to something you don't trust anything so people would clean prior to using anything.
Secondly, YANBU - nut allergies are well known but other allergies can be just as bad (and can also be airborne) and are really not that much more uncommon. Eg the girl who died after eating a baguette with sesame seeds; the boy who died after getting cheese chucked on him etc. IMO it's pointless as you have no idea what someone who rents after you may be allergic too. On a plane - don't eat nuts or other allergens especially when asked - in a holiday home eat whatever you like just be hygienic.

Unless you have booked a holiday home which is advertised as allergen free (in which case avoid all of them) you don't need to

BTW I have coeliacs disease - toaster pockets (which I provide myself) are my friend in situations like holiday homes if I were to have toast

You can have an anaphylaxis allergy to anything, not sure why some posters think an anaphylaxis peanut allergy is more dangerous than an anaphylaxis sesame allergy for example.

I have anaphylaxis to something very commonly eaten in holidays and in holiday homes. I carry 2 epi pens and check where the closest hospitals are. I wash all the dishes and cutlery before we use them, and a general wipe down of all kitchen surfaces.

If you want to eat peanuts on holiday just take them. I don't think it's an issue.

@WaltzingToWalsingham

We're going on holiday next week with my friend and her family. My friend and I have been planning the meals and preparing a shopping list. I added a bag of peanuts to the list, because my DC like to snack on them. My friend says we shouldn't have things like peanuts in a holiday house, because it might be used after us by somebody who is highly allergic to nuts, and they could have anaphylactic shock on holiday, an unfamiliar location where they don't know the nearest hospital, might not have phone reception to call an ambulance etc.

I do kind of see her point, but is the "no nuts in a holiday house" rule really a thing? Should we also avoid using other common allergens - milk, eggs, other nuts? What about gluten - will my use of gluten-containing bread in the toaster put people with coeliac disease at risk? Should I be extending this principle to items we consume in my own home - no peanut butter for breakfast in case a tiny amount is spilt on a school jumper and is then carried into the DC's nut-free school? On the other hand, what do people with severe allergies do about going on holiday etc? It must be almost impossible to clean a holiday house so thoroughly that no air-borne traces remain.

What do you do, MNers?
YABU = you avoid taking allergens such as nuts to holiday houses
YANBU = you take whatever you like on holiday

As a holiday home owner we do not ban peanuts or any of the other common allergens.

We clean to an exceptionally high standard between guests (and that includes the toaster!) but I would expect anyone with a life threatening allergy to be carrying epi-pens and taking any required precautions themselves.

As a Coeliac I would never be so foolish as to use a Norm toaster.

We have two at home.

I'm in Ireland and there was a very high profile and sad case of a teenager who died after eating at a Chinese buffet. Would you not order Chinese or Thai food to a holiday house, knowing there's a likelihood of it using peanut oil/peanuts being used as a garnish? There are so many different allergens, I actually think it can be misleading people giving the impression they are allergy-safe because they invariably miss things out. There's a thread on here at the moment about someone with a peanut allergy prescribed a brand of contraceptive pill that contains peanuts.

People surprisingly frequently buy gluten-free food for my daughter with egg allergies (the 'free from' aisle which bundles everything together has a lot to answer for IMO). I think bring peanuts, unless asked not to, and trust that those of us with children with allergies will take our own precautions.

It's sweet of you to think about this, but really the onus is not on you. If by a slim chance a severely allergic person comes in after you, tey need to arrange that a deep clean is done first