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WIBU to choose a new beauty therapist over covid vaccine?

26 replies

Travis1 · 25/07/2021 14:06

I’ve been using someone I went to school with for a few years now to carry out a ‘close contact service’. As well as following her business pages we’re also friends on Facebook. Well she’s said a few covid conspiracy type things when I’ve been in and I’ve just kind of glossed over it, challenging her on occasion but tbh my appointments with her are meant to be a treat so I don’t want a debate.

Anyway, more recently she was loudly proclaiming she would not have vaccine and didn’t take up the appointment she was sent. Low and behold a few weeks ago she contacts covid, most likely delta variant based on symptoms. And she had to close for 2 weeks/deep clean etc etc I thought that might give her a shake but no, she’s now posted on Facebook asking for holiday destinations where she won’t need a vaccine 🙄

I know these are her personal views and technically shouldn’t affect her business but I just don’t think I can use her anymore. AIBU? WIBU to switch to another company?

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ComtesseDeSpair · 25/07/2021 14:13

You can choose whatever beauty therapist you want, for whatever reason, Covid or not. But, you’ll have no way of knowing whether your next one is vaccinated or not, unless they’re vocal about it either way.

Travis1 · 25/07/2021 14:46

This is true and also a conversation I’ve had with DH. I’ve been deliberating going to a larger company who employ several therapists and asking them their policy before booking. I’m generally a live and let live and I don’t know why this is getting to me so much

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MrsFelicianoLopez · 25/07/2021 14:54

If she's just had Delta, and you're double vaccinated, she can't be a risk to you, so this is purely about your beliefs/values not aligning isn't it?

A new beauty therapist could lie and tell you that all the therapists are vaccinated when they aren't. Are you going to ask for proof of their vaccination status?

MrsFelicianoLopez · 25/07/2021 14:58

I mean, it's no different to a Christian person visiting a Jewish beauty therapist is it? (I've deliberately picked the two religions from my own family but you're welcome to insert the religious belief of your choice here!). Your beliefs are different and you fundamentally disagree on key things. But that doesn't make her a bad person or a bad beauty therapist .... Do you ask beauty therapists if they've had the MMR vaccine or if they're HIV negative? You sound very judgmental which is your right, but it's not very nice!

Wantaweekinthesun · 25/07/2021 15:00

I would go to a different one, personally, but that's only because all this anti-vaxx stuff winds me up. Besides, though she has antibodies now, they will fade faster than the vaccine antibodies. Safer to go with somebody who is vaccinated. I have a couple of friends that I am not seeing indoors anymore because they are refusing to be vaccinated. That's their choice, but it's also my choice not to see them.

SupermanWithTheGreyHair · 25/07/2021 15:02

I wouldn’t care about her vaccination status, ... I would care that she insisted on talking about it. It’s just attention seeking, whichever ‘side’ you’re on.

mog27 · 25/07/2021 15:03

Your choice who you use the same as it's her choice what goes in her body. This is the bottom line for everything, personal choice.

SarahBellam · 25/07/2021 15:03

She is entitled to not have the vaccine. You are entitled to go to whichever beauty therapist you want. In your shoes I’d vote with my feet too.

TheVanguardSix · 25/07/2021 15:04

Sometimes people’s beliefs just do get in the way of professional relationships and there’s nothing you can do to shake the discomfort that comes between you and that person/those people. You have to ask yourself if it’s really worth getting upset over. You’ve obviously valued her work for a decade. Is it worth throwing it all away? Is she actively harming you and others (questions for you to answer in your own time)?
Only you really know what feels right for you, OP.

Pingued · 25/07/2021 15:05

Just do what you want OP. It's your money. No need to make a big thing about it, just go somewhere else.

Nohomemadecandles · 25/07/2021 15:07

It wouldn't be my business to know whether she's vaccinated or not. However, I don't want to sit and listen to anti vax twaddle every time I see her.

You won't know if any other therapists are vaccinated- I shouldn't think they'll tell you, will they?

godmum56 · 25/07/2021 15:10

Your money, your choice.

IceCreamAndCandyfloss · 25/07/2021 15:11

Your choice. You need to do what you feel is best.

It’s like the establishments asking for masks still, many will feel better and support them over places where there are no masks.

Northernlassie1974 · 25/07/2021 15:12

@MrsFelicianoLopez

I mean, it's no different to a Christian person visiting a Jewish beauty therapist is it? (I've deliberately picked the two religions from my own family but you're welcome to insert the religious belief of your choice here!). Your beliefs are different and you fundamentally disagree on key things. But that doesn't make her a bad person or a bad beauty therapist .... Do you ask beauty therapists if they've had the MMR vaccine or if they're HIV negative? You sound very judgmental which is your right, but it's not very nice!
I mean, we are all allowed our own opinions but I really don't see this as a reasonable comparison.

Now, I'm certainly no covid expert and no virologist, however, my understanding (could be wrong) is that part of the reason for pushing on with vaccinations is to stop so many people contracting it and the likelihood of more mutations. Viruses naturally mutate. Can't stop them, but can lessen their opportunities to do so.
Therefore, all the unvaccinated people who's bodies aren't fighting off the virus, are more likely to be vessels for mutations. Therefore, there is every possibility (even if small) that your therapist could pass a new strain to you that your vaccine isn't effective against. Therefore, making you and your loved ones ill.
It isn't just accepting and tolerating someone else's different beliefs or views. You can ask her not to talk about it or put her views on you or simply choose to ignore them during an appointment but can't guarantee she won't make you ill.

ChunkySloth · 25/07/2021 15:17

@Travis1

I’ve been using someone I went to school with for a few years now to carry out a ‘close contact service’. As well as following her business pages we’re also friends on Facebook. Well she’s said a few covid conspiracy type things when I’ve been in and I’ve just kind of glossed over it, challenging her on occasion but tbh my appointments with her are meant to be a treat so I don’t want a debate.

Anyway, more recently she was loudly proclaiming she would not have vaccine and didn’t take up the appointment she was sent. Low and behold a few weeks ago she contacts covid, most likely delta variant based on symptoms. And she had to close for 2 weeks/deep clean etc etc I thought that might give her a shake but no, she’s now posted on Facebook asking for holiday destinations where she won’t need a vaccine 🙄

I know these are her personal views and technically shouldn’t affect her business but I just don’t think I can use her anymore. AIBU? WIBU to switch to another company?

She's had covid. She will have better immunity to it than if she had the vaccine, and she doesn't need a vaccine now that she had it Confused
Donationwitheverypack · 25/07/2021 15:17

I would, not be use she hasn't had the vaccine but because of her "extreme" posting, in the same way that I wouldn't want a therapist who posts a lot of extreme religious or political views. I certainly wouldn't want her in my FB feed.

PinkiOcelot · 25/07/2021 15:22

@Wantaweekinthesun just because someone is refusing this vaccine does not make them an anti vaxer. People spouting this crap winds me up tbh.

You sound very judgmental and superior OP. Do her a favour and take your custom elsewhere.

user1745 · 25/07/2021 15:27

Obviously as a customer you can take your business wherever you want, but given she's recently had Covid, she's probably no more a danger to you than a double vaccinated therapist, so you would be boycotting her really just because of her beliefs. If that's how you want a presumably positive business relationship of several years to end, then go ahead. Personally I don't care about the beliefs of service providers I use, as long as they do a good job, trade honestly and aren't a danger to me.

SupermanWithTheGreyHair · 25/07/2021 15:28

She’s also not very business minded. Most people who run a business don’t comment on anything that is a contentious issue/can be divisive as it’s sensible for profit to keep your market as wide reaching as possible after all. Strange that small business owner is doing this.

RaindropsOnRosie · 25/07/2021 15:34

I'd rather have one who's beliefs I didn't know, than one who was that loudly stupid. YANBU.

Littlecaf · 25/07/2021 15:38

My usual manicurist is a good friend of mine. She’s recently turned anti vax anti mask - I love her dearly as a friend but I will be taking my business elsewhere.

Travis1 · 25/07/2021 15:44

Thanks for thoughts. I am howling though at people calling me judgemental. I’m not judging her. I’m uncomfortable. That’s my issue. I’ve not commented on anything she’s posted about it, it’s just there in my head. I avoid if she brings anything up in the salon except maybe once or twice when some of the things she’s said have been up there in terms of conspiracies and I just couldn’t say anything other than ‘no that’s not right because x,y,z’ and then I’ve swiftly changed the subject

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TheVanguardSix · 25/07/2021 15:47

You’re allowed to be uncomfortable.
You’re allowed to judge. We all do it! How else can we come to conclusions that feel right for us without being a bit ‘judgy’?
As I said before, you have to do what feels right for you, OP.

Serenschintte · 25/07/2021 15:50

If you are vaccinated then your risk from Covid is low
If she has had Covid then at least for some months her risk from Covid is low - in some European countries a positive PCR test within a certain date is accepted as an alternative to Covid vaccination for travel.

Wantaweekinthesun · 25/07/2021 16:06

[quote PinkiOcelot]@Wantaweekinthesun just because someone is refusing this vaccine does not make them an anti vaxer. People spouting this crap winds me up tbh.

You sound very judgmental and superior OP. Do her a favour and take your custom elsewhere.[/quote]
@PinkiOcelot She is an anti-Covid vaxxer. For all intents and purposes, it's the same thing right now. It wouldn't change my decision to prefer not to be indoors with her, so, if it were me, I'd take my custom elsewhere.

Also, it is not judgemental or superior of the OP to prefer not to be around unvaccinated people in the middle of the pandemic. It's sensible.

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