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AIBU?

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Anyone been over to Ireland since 19th July

35 replies

postitgirl · 24/07/2021 20:39

So I've booked tickets to go in august, but my mother is saying my kids need to quarantine for 5 days, get a PCR and if it's neg they can go out. My reading of the regs from the Citizens Advice Bureau (Irish one) was that the quarantine doesn't apply to children 17 and under. I don't know if she is being ultra cautious, I dont want an argument with her, but my kids are upset they have to stay in for 5 days with my parents. Anyone been through this??? I'm vaccinated so I don't think it applies to me... (I will be getting them the PCR here before we go)

VOTE: IABU - not making the kids quarantine YES
IANBU - doing what my mother wants and quarantining me and kids for 5 days

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Hankunamatata · 24/07/2021 21:13

www.stenaline.co.uk/travel-restrictions/ireland

Hankunamatata · 24/07/2021 21:15

Last updated 19 July 2021

Please consultgov.ie/travelfor information on travel restrictions and requirements for travelling to Ireland.

Prior to travelling to Ireland, you are required to fill out a COVID-19Passenger Locator Formonline and show your receipt at check in. The form should be completedprior to your arrival into Ireland. This form is only available online. Paper copies are not accepted.

Travelling to Ireland from outside the EU (including Great Britain)

• If you havevalid proof of vaccination, no travel-related testing or quarantine will be necessary.

• If you have valid proof of recovery from COVID -19 in the past 180 days, no travel-related testing or quarantine will be necessary.

• If you do not have valid proof of vaccination or recovery, you will need to:

present evidence of a negative result from a RT-PCR test taken within 72 hours prior to arrival into the countryself-quarantine for 14 daysIf you receive a negative result from a RT-PCR test taken from day 5 onwards after arrival into Ireland, you will be able to leave quarantine.

Please select fromthe relevant links below based on your country of residency to find out how to obtain your vaccination certificate:

England -NHS COVID Pass

Scotland -NHS COVID Vaccination Status

Wales -NHS COVID Pass

Northern Ireland -NHS Proof of Vaccination

While paper vaccine cards are accepted as proof of vaccination, we strongly advise our guests to access their NHS Covid Pass to avoid any potential issues upon arrival.

Travelling to Ireland from inside the EU

• If you have anEU Digital Covid Certificate(DCC), no travel-related testing or quarantine will be necessary.

• If you have valid proof that you have recovered from COVID -19 in the past 180 days, no travel-related testing or quarantine will be necessary.

•If you do not havevalid proof of vaccinationor recovery, you will need to present evidence of a negative RT-PCR result from a test taken within 72 hours prior to arrival into the country. A follow up RT-PCR test is recommended on day 5 after arrival (provided free through Health Service Executive)

Republic of Ireland -EU Digital COVID Certificate

Children

Children aged 12 and over (12-17) years will be required to present proof of a negative PCR test taken not more than 72 hours before arrival unless they have proof of vaccination or recovery.No quarantine is required.Children aged 11 and under do not need a PCR test. No quarantine is required.Children of any age, travelling with accompanying vaccinated or recovered adults will not be required to self-quarantine post arrival. However, where one accompanying adult needs to self-quarantine, then all children must also self-quarantine.

Any passengers who develop symptoms of Covid-19 post-arrival are advised to present for testing with the Health Service Executive.

postitgirl · 24/07/2021 21:45

Yep that's exactly what I showed my mother. But she wants the children to quarantine for 5 days and do the PCR test. Specifically I think she's most worried about my daughter who is 17 and not vaccinated. If she wants us to quarantine I'm not sure we will go -for the sake of our mental health aarrrrggghhhh

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OuiOuiKitty · 24/07/2021 21:51

Could you get your 17 year old to quarantine before you leave for a week or whatever? Maybe your mother would feel better if she knew they weren't mixing given how rampant it is in that age group at the min?

AppleKatie · 24/07/2021 21:54

My reading of the rules is that your 17 year old would need to test before departure but not quarantine if she is travelling with vaccinated adults.

Your mum is clearly acting with an abundance of caution but you don’t need to follow her advice (unless you are planning to stay in her house I guess?). I would be getting myself on Airbnb in your shoes I think.

Decorhate · 24/07/2021 21:54

We are also planning to go next month (and have a 17 year old). Dh & I are planning to almost quarantine beforehand - well limit our contacts at least. This is mainly to avoid any last-minute pinging causing the trip to be cancelled.

I’m hoping Ds will do the same though he is moaning about it.

We will do daily lateral flow tests too.

However, if your parents are very nervous about having you to stay perhaps you should wait & visit later in the year.

ChimneyPot · 24/07/2021 21:56

Do your parents want your daughter to quarantine away from them or do they want her quarantining with them?
If they want her away from them then you have to respect that.
If they want her quarantining with them then it is harder to understand.
I would get the 17 year old a PCR test before travelling and on day 5 in Ireland if it makes your parents more comfortable

postitgirl · 24/07/2021 22:00

It's frustrating as I had decided not to go this summer, but then my mother told us that everything had opened up and was a lot better since 19th aug. So I booked and now am regretting it. Yes we're staying with her. My 17 year old dd wants to go out to meet friends when she's there. She's sensible - she's meeting them outside, and just one at a time. She says she cant go if she has to stay in for 5 days with my parents and me & ds. I don't blame her. If I cancel the trip now it will cause a lot of drama and I don't want that either. We're planning to restrict our movemements before we go and the 2 kids will have the pCR test. I can see drama ahead if we arrive and my mother wants us to quarantine. I wish I could find an airbnb that was affordable in the area - they live in an expensive area.

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postitgirl · 24/07/2021 22:02

yes good idea I can book her a PCR test on day in Ireland also. They want her quarantining with them I believe. They've already said she cant have a sleepover with her friend, or her dad. She says it's not allowed. I've rationalised it and said she could do sleepover with friend at the end, and not go back to my parents house so it won't affect them. I think they want her to quarantine with them -- secretly hoping that that will force her to stay in and spend time with them.

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ClareBlue · 24/07/2021 22:07

Are you over our way?
We do AirBnB and know most of the hosts. There might be some options

ChimneyPot · 24/07/2021 22:21

Tell your mum you phoned the Irish Embassy in London and they said your 17 year old doesn’t have to quarantine unless she travels with an unvaccinated adult. In fact you could actually call them. They are very helpful.

postitgirl · 25/07/2021 13:14

So my mother just phoned me, and to be fair, it's her doctor who told her it was too risky for us to stay with her and my father. I'm not sure what the difference is between us staying somewhere else and visiting every day though... Have to respect her wishes of course. Just not sure where that leaves me. I cant afford a b&b or air bnb - maybe I can change the flights and just go for one night. Bloody bloody covid it's wrecking our lives atm.

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bythebanksof · 25/07/2021 13:34

The situation here has changed in the past few weeks with number rising. One additional challenge is the price and availability of airbnb and b&b, lots of places booked out.

Depending on where you live, you could consider looking at student/college accommodation. Lots of these do rentals to overseas students during the summer.

ChimneyPot · 25/07/2021 21:57

That’s different and understandable.

If you were staying elsewhere but visiting you could stay outdoors and wear masks. That can’t happen if you are staying over.

It’s really tough on you when you want to go home though.

Do you have any other family you could stay with?

ClareBlue · 25/07/2021 23:54

Which County are you going to?

Dreambigger · 26/07/2021 00:16

Just go through Belfast and drive down...literally no one is going to ask you anything or check on anything. We have just been on the ferry and they didn't require any documentation or tests.

seashells11 · 26/07/2021 08:07

@Dreambigger

Just go through Belfast and drive down...literally no one is going to ask you anything or check on anything. We have just been on the ferry and they didn't require any documentation or tests.
Can i ask... was that with Stena line from Liverpool?
Qwerty789 · 26/07/2021 08:15

@Dreambigger

Just go through Belfast and drive down...literally no one is going to ask you anything or check on anything. We have just been on the ferry and they didn't require any documentation or tests.
How does that in any way he;p with OP's dilemma?

And also, just because no-one can stop you entering without following the rules, doesn't mean you shouldn't follw the rules Hmm

Bodgers · 26/07/2021 08:31

Could you stay in a neighbouring (cheaper) county and do day trips to see them?

seashells11 · 26/07/2021 08:40

And also, just because no-one can stop you entering without following the rules, doesn't mean you shouldn't follw the rules

Oh yes the rules..... The ones that often don't even make sense, but seem to be designed to make travel just for the rich.

Qwerty789 · 26/07/2021 08:49

Oh yes the rules..... The ones that often don't even make sense, but seem to be designed to make travel just for the rich

No, the ones designed to keep Ireland safe: mainly from the stupidity of the UK gov and their rules Hmm

seashells11 · 26/07/2021 08:57

No they aren't all designed to keep Ireland safe. If it was it isn't working..... They want to try protecting jobs especially in the hospitality business. Instead they're allowing businesses to close. It could have all been handled far better.

Qwerty789 · 26/07/2021 09:03

@seashells11

No they aren't all designed to keep Ireland safe. If it was it isn't working..... They want to try protecting jobs especially in the hospitality business. Instead they're allowing businesses to close. It could have all been handled far better.
It was handled far better in Ireland than it was in the UK, and I doubt you actually have a clue about any of it.
lovescats3 · 26/07/2021 09:10

Ireland has had the longest lockdown in Europe , where we in England will end up remains to be seen in Johnson's experiment

seashells11 · 26/07/2021 10:33

It was handled far better in Ireland than it was in the UK, and I doubt you actually have a clue about any of it.
Why would I not have a clue. I live in Ireland. Hmm

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