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AIBU?

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to be weirded out by my teamleader's comments about my age?

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Cruiser123 · 20/07/2021 21:19

Hello,

I would like to ask you for your input to see if I'm being unreasonable.

I have started a new job six weeks ago. So far everything is going fine and I had positive feedback that I'm doing really well.

I also have a 1 year old that goes to a childminder while I'm working. I've mentioned it to our director before that I have a young child and to another female coworker who also has 2 children.

I hadn't mentioned it to my teamleader yet as there just was no reason to do so so far.

Yesterday in the morning, after starting work, I received a call from my childminder to please pick my child up as he had runny poos. They also said he couldn't return for the next 48 hours.

I called my team leader ( we work from home all the time and only have seen each other on video so far, not in person). I said: "I don't think I have mentioned it to you before, but I have a young son, and he's unwell at the childminder and I need to pick him up.

He then said: "Really? No you haven't mentioned it to me. But you don't look a day over 18".

I just jokingly replied: "I always say "I'm 18 and a few years".

I'm actually 34 and I definitely don't think I look young, but it's probably the camera smoothing things out. There's a good mix of people of all different ages at my company. People in their twenties, thirties, fourties and even older people.

I then drove off to pick up my son. When I was back I realized I couldn't work while looking after a child at the same time.

I then called him again to tell him that I'm going to ask HR if I could take the next 2 1/2 days as a holiday.

I had my crying child in my arms and he heard him crying as well. He showed no concern at all for my son, but asked me: "How old is your child?". I then responded 1 and then he asked me "And how old are you?"

I then was kind of pissed off and just replied "Didn't you know that you should never ask a woman for her age".

He then said: "No, I'm allowed to ask these questions. My oldest daughter is in her mid thirties, she's got 2 young children, and my youngest daughter is 25 and I think you are around my youngest daughter's age"

I then just didn't answer his question and moved on to something different.

I'm not ashamed about my age and being "older", but AIBU to be seriously weirded out by his assumptions about my age?

Even if I was 25, would it be that unusual to have a 1 year old child? I'm sure there's plenty of women who start their families in their early/mid-twenties. My mum for instance started when she was 23 and completed her family by the age of 30.

I got a really strange vibe from this conversation. On top of that, I'm about 7 weeks pregnant at the moment and I now dread telling my new employer about my pregnancy. I fell pregnant in the month I started my new job.

My plan was to keep it a secret as long as possible and only tell them when I have to. As I work from home they wouldn't see my growing bump.

AIBU to find this whole questioning about my age really weird or is this just my hormonal pregnancy brain making things up?

When I mentioned my son to our director and my other colleague ( both are women), none of them questioned me about my age.

By the way, before anyone accuses me, this is not a post to humble brag about how young l look. I'm seriously bewildered by his comments and would like to know other's people's opinions.

I asked my partner and he also thought his comments were really weird.

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MadeForThis · 20/07/2021 21:58

It's a strange reaction. Your age or the age of your son is totally irrelevant.

Lifeonashoestring · 20/07/2021 21:59

My immediate (synical) thought was he was trying to suss out if you were likely to be having more children...

Cruiser123 · 20/07/2021 22:09

@Lifeonashoestring

That's a thought I had as well. Grim really....I want to give him the benefit of the doubt that he's not a complete sexist asshole, but I'm not too sure anymore.

I hate it when people at work try to monitor your uterus.

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Sittingonabench · 20/07/2021 23:01

It is a bizarre reaction and question - mainly because if he was that interested he could likely get that information from hr. do you think he was maybe trying (albeit extremely clumsily) to connect with you one some level I.e hoping he could say oh I have a daughter about your age with a similar aged child and connect from there.

BackforGood · 20/07/2021 23:11

I can't see why you are concerned or upset about it.
It sounds like conversation to me, and a lighthearted (if slightly miscalculated) attempt at trying to be nice.

However, I don't think you are doing yourself any favours at the company by trying to conceal your pregnancy.

ILoveYouILoveYouIDo · 20/07/2021 23:17

He was buttering you up to find out more info.

Eleoura · 20/07/2021 23:19

Odd and a weird thing for him to ask.

Maybe he thought it odd that you started 6 weeks ago yet asked for holiday leave to look after your son, rather than unpaid parental leave?

Did you tell him your son has 'runny poos' or 'diarrhoea'? TBH, if you'd said 'runny poos' to me, I'd also assume you were very young too.

Regardless, it is an odd thing to say. It does however sound like a weird way of trying to connect his daughter with kids and you. Maybe he is just didn't know what to say or wonders how much more time you might take off for your child? I hope you son is better soon.

LawnFever · 20/07/2021 23:22

What a bizarre conversation, neither your age or your sons age were relevant whatsoever to the situation- if he’d just said it once I’d have thought it was ok, but it was weird to keep asking and to say he’s allowed to ask these questions.

Cruiser123 · 20/07/2021 23:27

@Eleoura

You can't control when kids get ill. It's unfortunate that it happened when I've just started a new job, but that's life.

I don't think there's anything wrong with taking holidays to look after your sick child...HR approved it.

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Cruiser123 · 20/07/2021 23:31

@BackforGood

I can't see why you are concerned or upset about it. It sounds like conversation to me, and a lighthearted (if slightly miscalculated) attempt at trying to be nice.

However, I don't think you are doing yourself any favours at the company by trying to conceal your pregnancy.

Please keep in mind that I'm still in my probation period. I hope my company isn't like this, but it would neither be the first nor the last company to discriminate against a pregnant woman.

I will probably tell them when I'm around 20 weeks.

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HotPenguin · 20/07/2021 23:32

I find that odd too and I wonder if he doesn't believe you really have a child?

Cruiser123 · 20/07/2021 23:34

@HotPenguin

But he heard my child crying in the background. Maybe he thought I had snatched the neighbour's child to get a quick holiday as the weather was so good 😂

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Newjobcrap · 20/07/2021 23:43

No he’s not allowed to ask questions about your age. Does he want to encourage you down the age discrimination route?

Cruiser123 · 21/07/2021 09:25

@Newjobcrap

My thinking as well. I thought it was really unprofessional and weirs. But then again he could deny ever having said that as it wasn't in writing.

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Newjobcrap · 21/07/2021 10:18

How old is your manager, OP?

Cruiser123 · 21/07/2021 10:40

@Newjobcrap

I don't know, I have never asked him. He's older as he already has 4 adult children, but not sure how old exactly.

Probably late 50s/early 60s?

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Cookofcastamar · 21/07/2021 12:41

@Cruiser123 I moved to a new company in 2019 on a two year contract. In early 2020 I interviewed for a perm role and got it. Covid kicked in and with schools closed we had to juggle childcare. Head of my dept was shocked to find out that I have two kids as she thought I was 10 years younger (I was 33). She has a habit of hiring youngish (early to mid twenties) and childfree people as half her team are child free and 30% of the other half are young mid twenties. That way she bombards your with work and you're up all hours without any dependent to worry about. She never directly asked me my age as that's illegal I think. But she wasn't impressed when I got pregnant, well not to my face anyway.

Thelnebriati · 21/07/2021 13:00

Age is a protected characteristic so he shouldn't be making comments about your age. Talk to HR and ACAS. I dont know how people get promotions without knowing basic employment or equality law.

Cruiser123 · 21/07/2021 19:26

@Cookofcastamar

It's so disappointing when the discrimination comes from another woman. I'm sorry this happened to you.

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