AIBU to saw off my neighbour drainage pipe?

[Lavendersblue11]

About two years ago, my neighbour turned a brick out house backing onto her property into a bathroom. Two walls of the out house are boundary walls in my garden. She had no permission from me but I came home one day and she had directed her overflow pipe, pvc bath drainage pipe and guttering all on my wall, it upset me but I'm a wuss so didn't know how to deal with it. Have attached photo for ref. Weird garden boundaries as row of cottages used to belong to one family so odd division of gardens. 1) overflow pipe 2) guttering 3) bath drainage 4) her property 5)my garden.
So recently in another part of the garden she has now started cutting my hedge back and moving the boundary completely, this is a totally different arguement and I am getting a surveyor to sort this boundary line properly. But in trying to move the boundary she has massively damaged our hedge.... And I'm really pee'd of with her taking advantage and want all her crappy plastic pipes gone now (for additional information she didn't want a party wall agreement). So can I saw them off cap the pipe and return them to her???

Where else do you want the water to drain? It’s draining onto her property, would you rather it drain onto yours?

Have you actually talked to her about these drains?

It looks bloody awful. I'd be hugely pissed off and I think I'd plant a really vigorous climber there, so it would grow up the wall and hide it. A clematis montana would cover that in a couple of years if it's reasonably sunny.

Is the back outhouse/full bathroom conversion permitted?
I’d start with the city bylaw office (your equivalent) to see if this meets city code.

@fallfallfall

Is the back outhouse/full bathroom conversion permitted? I’d start with the city bylaw office (your equivalent) to see if this meets city code.

We are grade 2 listed, that I'm aware of no permission was obtained. In fairness I don't care that she has converted the out house in just fed up that she has left all her ugly stuff on my side. But with all the other problems she is causing maybe I should look into the planning permission side of things.

@LibrariesGiveUsPower45321

Where else do you want the water to drain? It’s draining onto her property, would you rather it drain onto yours?

Have you actually talked to her about these drains?

I want her ugly pipes, in her garden and not mine and the over flow pipe does frequently drain into our garden. Because of other issues she has created a conversation would not be appropriate.

If you get rid of the pipe the gutter will just overflow into your garden.

I’d write to planning before you run out of time. Grey water can’t be mixed into storm water drains so she is breaking the law.

Surely it'll all just run into your garden then anyway?
It seems odd to be reluctant to talk to her because you're a wuss and yet you're willing to do something that's likely to aggravate the situation.

Well the pipes technically have no permission to be over handing your property. She should have either got your permission or come up with another solution (which there will have been, but it might have been more expensive or unsightly.

However, given you’re already in dispute with her, I really would just pick my battles here and grow something over it.

Talk to a solicitor

I have to say that I would be bit "hmm. It's been two years and no objection..."

Are you hoping it will help with boundary dispute or something?

Talk to the local sewerage company to check that she's made the correct connections for the drainage.

This is not a social issue this is a building regulation issue. As a previous poster has said you can't just direct water anyway you please.
She should have been reported for this years ago!
She can't stick pipes down your wall without a party wall agreement either.

You couldn't sell your house likes this, and she couldn't sell her house either with dodgy building work that does not obey regulations.

You need to talk to a lawyer and get this fine as well as the boundary issue.

I cannot believe the nerve of people.

Whilst the hedge row is being sorted you can say it was brought to your attention that she is breaking the law with her arrangement (presuming she is ) and needs to change it - Where did the guttering go previously? I presume there was none - you could have a downpipe and a soakaway (which I believe is a ditch filled iwth gravel) and let it run into your garden. But the other drainage could go across her bathroom and be boxed in.

Where did the gutter drain to before? It's taking rainwater from the pitched roof on your side over to her side. The only alternative is for that water to drain onto your garden. As for the lower pipes, I'm guessing they are related to the bathroom, presumably the waste from the basin and overflow from cistern. She probably does need your permission for those. But I'd be checking for any covenants. And I wouldn't be confident about just capping them off. You'll cause a massive argument, and I wouldn't be sure that you wouldn't be legally responsible if you take unilateral action.

Another thought: there must be a toilet in the bathroom. Where is that draining to?

If she's knocked holes in the grade 2 listed wall for the bathroom pipes to go through she could be in pretty serious trouble.

It looks shit I'm not surprised you're pissed off.

The drainage should run internally then exit her side.
The overflow pipe is a total piss take.

Unload a can of expanding foam up it 😂

@Tossblanket

It looks shit I'm not surprised you're pissed off.

The drainage should run internally then exit her side.
The overflow pipe is a total piss take.

Unload a can of expanding foam up it 😂

It looks shit I'm not surprised you're pissed off.

To be honest, the only pipe that's noticeable is the black gutter pipe, and I don't see that there's any alternative to that, unless the water from that side of the roof drains onto @Lavendersblue11 's land.

It originally had a flat roof that tilted towards her house so the gutters were there. I've just emailed listed building department and planning for some advice. There are many issues with this neighbour, currently an access path has been blocked, loud music, the issue with the boundary, I don't say Anything because I live here alone, it's easy to be brave when you have someone else backing you up, but I don't and whilst some people might be comfortable with a verbal confrontation, I'm not . I have however reached my limit now and want to stop feeling so stressed because of who I live next to. I'm waiting for a surveyor to look at the boundary issue, it might be impossible to clearly define because of the age of the cottages, that it's costing quite a bit, a lawyer unfortunately is not in my price range.
I will ask environmental health about the drainage issues and see what they come up with. Thank you.

The grey bathroom waste looks pretty obvious to me too.

There's absolutely no need for it to run outside like that.

contact you local council and water company.

if a black gutter pipe is indeed necessary WHY does it have to be on this side of the structure? it could just as easily go on the other back wall. property lines need to be clear. i'm sure she is breaking a rule or two or more.

2 issues
First she can’t discharge rain water onto your garden - it’s a legal nuisance. You should give her notice to move it and if she doesn’t you can block it.
Second see can’t just discharge grey waste water anywhere. It’s might get into the water course and pollute it. Your water company should take action if you report it to them.