AIBU to think DS should not need to isolate

[lftorpcr]

Been told by school that DS's class has to isolate today as a girl has a positive LFT. If the PCR comes back positive the whole class has to isolate for 10 days according to school. Surely this is not correct DS has not been within 2m of the girl not even for a moment and they all sit in forward facing seats in rows and there was no movement.

This is the list the school sent me when I questioned closeness for one of my daughters contacts

@lftorpcr

Thats fine I am just trying to ensure school follow correct guidance before they tell us to isolate. At moment we are awaiting PCR. Far better to ensure guidance is correct before kids are told to isolate as then it will be too late to change decision.

That’s not your job though. The guidance for schools is a bit muddied to be honest. I doubt that the school wants to keep them off and they’ll be dealing with parents on the other end of the scale who are worried about this.

Close contact will be spending hours in the same room as each other-breathing in the same air, with an airborne virus flying around. 48 hours won’t be exact either. They were all together in the morning as well.

Siki I thought I just cut and pasted government site and dont think your last point about cleaning the house was there. Has it been removed??

Your school will be in contact with Public Health and will have to take their lead on what the next steps are. It seems ridiculous and unfair that the school has gone to such lengths as to keep the 2m rule at all times and eradicate playtimes only to have to isolate the whole class anyway if one person tests positive. I really feel for you OP, my class hubble burst last week so I'm currently self isolating too.

Sorry. I’m more am concerned that your year 6 child who has been sat in a row 9-3 every single day with no PE, no lunch time run around, no break time, and they eat their lunch in the same place.

Wtaf.

It may not be my job but better to ensure school have correct guidance as you say it is muddled so am not happy to miss a holiday and last days of primary if guidance is unclear and school misinterpret.

Not a clue they said this was from schools guidance, maybe they have separate guidance, they literally sent that screen shot

@User5827372728

Sorry. I’m more am concerned that your year 6 child who has been sat in a row 9-3 every single day with no PE, no lunch time run around, no break time, and they eat their lunch in the same place.

Wtaf.

I know, it's such an odd set up. I don't know any school that has gone to such extremes, and I can't imagine how awful the past year has been for these children.

@lftorpcr

It is year 6 so has HUGE implications as will never say goodbye to everyone, miss leavers prom and then miss our summer holiday. It is not the same as breaking up early as may never see any of these friends again.

I dont believe there was any contact as they sit in rows and stay in same rows for lunch and are not allowed to turn round to speak to those behind them and DS is sat 3m apart. They have been sat like this since covid and missed so much by never leaving the classroom or being allowed to mix groups and only working with their partners. The benefit was meant to be to reduce risk. If they were one bubble they may has well have been able to speak to their friends at lunch and not sit in a row watching TV not allowed to speak all year.

My DD tested positive last Tue Obviously bubble popped Also year 6, also ruined end of term. She caught it from a child who was in contagious for 1 day (the previous Friday). She sits nowhere near this child, doesn't play with them. 6 other children and a teacher also caught it. They sit scattered around the class. It also spread into the next class. Delta is so contagious in this age group.

@lftorpcr

It may not be my job but better to ensure school have correct guidance as you say it is muddled so am not happy to miss a holiday and last days of primary if guidance is unclear and school misinterpret.

It’s unlikely that they would.

I understand how youre feeling. This was me last week. I’ve felt so sad for my ds and all his friends missing out.

But at the end of the day, the 2m rule is based on nonsense - you can catch it from more than 2m if you’re in an enclosed space.

user - I agree but I was extremely vulnerable and shielding/recovering from cancer etc so obviously didnt complain at outset. Head teacher is also vulnerable and very nervous about situation which I understood and appreciated. However it has gone on far too long. It is so sad to have had no school clubs, assemblies and only allowed to work with the child either side in their row. They go outside for break and after they have eaten but whilst indoors they stay in their rows and are not allowed to go to the school hall for lunch etc. It is heartbreaking. Not a single day trip to replace their missed residential.

If they are doing school rehearsals then they must be moving from their desks for that.

How big and how well ventilated is their classroom?

OP I really feel for you, it’s shit, and the way your school have managed the whole situation (with the strict no breaks etc) sounds odd.

Both the school my kids go to and the one I work in (both primary) have had, at times, either class or year group bubbles but kids have mixed freely within those. That’s the whole point of a bubble!

It is absolutely rubbish for any ‘end of school’ year group (I have a y6 and one of the classes are currently isolating and I could cry for them) but it is what it is. Public health England will have instructed closure of the bubble. The sad thing for your DC’s school is more that they have been OTT in enforcing isolation within the bubble - which was not actually what was supposed to happen, the whole point as I understand it was to allow for normal free flow behaviour for the children within their bubble setting. Unfortunately it’s come back to bite them now as they all have to isolate regardless.

It’s all such a mess, I really feel for you.

They go outside for break and after they have eaten

Wait so they do get time to play outside? I thought you said they didn't get playtime and watched movies.

My DC’s school has changed their rules so the whole bubble no longer isolates, it’s just the children sitting close to the positive case or whoever plays with them. I’m grateful because my DD dodged SI last month when someone on the front row tested positive (she’s back row so got to stay in school).

It’s very unfair on year 6 children especially. My DS is year 6 and I’d be absolutely gutted on his behalf if this happened to him, he has his leavers party on Wednesday and they do a graduation ceremony on the last day too complete with gowns and hats . He shouldn’t be starved of the opportunity to say bye to his friends, he isn’t going to the same secondary as most.

I almost wish people would stop testing their fucking kids, especially with LF which means they probably don’t have symptoms. I hope the PCR comes back negative so your DC can stay in school. Shit thing is kids don’t have to bother isolating in 3 weeks.

@Whinge she was only talking about that afternoon I believe.

It is the 48 hours before symptoms start. So a test at 2pm on Sunday might mean the symptoms started Saturday evening/Sunday morning, so likely their plans for the whole of Friday are relevant. I can see your frustration that they have had strict rules throughout but it makes no difference to the isolation rules.

[quote GhostTypeEevee]@Whinge she was only talking about that afternoon I believe. [/quote]
I was confused by the OPs mention of after they've eaten. However, even if they only go outside for morning break, then there's a chance the children have been in close contact.

Why are people twisting what I said it is not the point of the thread.

I said we were asked for contacts 48 hours before so from 2pm on Friday. I said from 1.30 to 3pm they sat and watched a movie without having a break as they dont have afternoon play and they stayed sat in their row not that they have never had a break!!! They are allowed outside to play at other times of day but in the class they stay in rows even if it is wet play.

Why are Year 6 children doing lateral flow tests-I didn’t think primary school aged children were doing them?

Did the child have symptoms?

We were told the symptoms started at 2pm sunday so it was based on contact after 2pm Friday. so far only LFT has been done we are waiting PCR. I dont understand the questioning here. The head is vulnerable and has been doing her best. It is easy to criticize when not in that situation.

Its simple if someone in class tests positive, the whole class isolates.

Delta variant is hugely more infectious. The infectious person in classroom would be breathing virus out and it would spread over the entire room.

Symptoms can take 5 days to appear

@FortniteBoysMum

Does oxygen stop moving in the class room when it reaches a 2 meter distance? If so then I'm sure your ds is fine but if like anywhere else the air circulates in the whole class who's to say he hasn't breathed in the same air. They could both have spoke to the teacher or the same child.

That. Totally sympathise though, and personally I'd not take him to shops or out with family until the 10 days is up but would still go on family park trips with a football or similar unless he seems ill, I'm tired of having young kids stuck inside the house for weeks while others go to Wembley and now nightclubs.