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To ask for a raise/position change

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riseupeyesup · 13/07/2021 19:07

Name changed as could be outing if my boss is on here!

I have had my position for over a year now - it is a 0.5 position (manager) and 0.5 (general office worker). I have a small team that I manage.

Under my contract I am down as managing in the mornings and being a general team member in the afternoons - this never happens not since the moment I started and when I've questioned I've been told wouldn't you rather just be managing and that it is the nature of the role.

When I took the job on I thought it was a job share hence the 0.5 but it turned out it wasn't, in the interview I was told when I questioned it would be a strict split.

A year down the line I have loved the role, it can be stressful and I end up working long hours but it has been a really good experience. However my responsibilities are becoming more and more. There are three other managers who are all on full time managers wages and get a significant amount more than I do and an extra 10 days holiday. There has now been five occasions where they have all taken holiday the same weeks and I've been left to manage all the teams, something I don't mind doing but obviously is a hell of a lot of work. My specific department have performed well and although smaller sites we have kept up with the bigger ones numbers even with a smaller team.

There are a few changes going on in my personal life which means we are very tight on money. The extra money that I would be getting if I was a full time manager would make a huge difference.

AIBU to ask for a raise/to become a full time manager? I feel I've worked hard and contributed to the teams, I feel like there is no difference at all between what I do in a day and what my counterparts do. I don't want to come across as cheeky as we have been told that budgets have been cut this year meaning instead of employing 8 new people we can only employ 4.

I genuinely feel I'm taken advantage off and quite frankly have had enough working for much less than everyone else yet expected to do the same amount of stuff!

I've asked for a meeting with my senior manager - any advice?

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Caterinasballerinas · 13/07/2021 19:10

No real advice but definitely ask.

Newdad19 · 13/07/2021 19:13

Definitely.

Do you have any regular check ins or mid year review with your manager?

You should prepare in advance of the meeting with tangible examples to support your case.

riseupeyesup · 13/07/2021 19:33

@Newdad19 supposed to have monthly 1 to 1s but it rarely happens

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Eeiliethya · 13/07/2021 19:36

My advice would be to put together a business case outlining your reasons for being eligible for a pay increase and title change.
That way, when you sit down with your manager you will have a well structured argument that puts your position forward.

Go into detail about how you often act as manager which goes above and beyond the pre-agreed responsibility in your original contact.

It's not impossible OP, I've done this twice now in my current company and each time been successful. I started on 30k, I've managed to double that through asking for increases and outlining the benefits and advantage my experience is bringing to the org as opposed to one of their competitors.

Make it clear you would like a timeline for the review to be concluded and when can you expect to hear, otherwise they may pay you lip service and brush it under the carpet.

If they say they will take it into consideration and review further down the line - get in writing with a date.

Good luck!

Thingsdogetbetter · 13/07/2021 19:48

Start recording what you do hour by hour: categorising them as management or general. Show that your management responsibilities take up most of your timeby necessity.

Ask for a breakdown of your duel responsibilities. And check your contract.

Collect evidence of how well your team is doing in comparison with the others with full managers.

Check with acas where you stand on them breaching your contract. Get the jargon and business speak ready to use.

Ask for a review meeting after a month of recording. If they are not willing to pay for the management work you are doing fairly, ask them how you are going to be supported in ensuring this strict split in line with your contract in the future.

And then stick to the strict split - completely and totally. Say no to any management activities that take you over the 0.5. Again record everything and document the fall in dept productivity. Ask for another review so that you can show that the management cannot be done productively at 0.5.

If they won't budge, you need to keep sticking to the strict split and job hunt.

riseupeyesup · 13/07/2021 21:40

Thanks all. Senior manager has proposed out next 1-1 for tomorrow so a long night of prep ahead

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Newdad19 · 13/07/2021 22:25

Good luck! Let us know how it goes

riseupeyesup · 14/07/2021 13:27

Unsuccessful I'm afraid. Feel quite upset and hurt but at least I now know - reason was budgets

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