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Under the cover of 'FREEDOM' Day the Police Bill was passed that bans your right to protest

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flashbac · 05/07/2021 23:40

Without the right to protest we're screwed. 365 MPs voted for it.
If this isn't the path to fascism I don't know what it is.

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LemonRoses · 06/07/2021 16:02

You are right - path to fascism.

Weebleweeble · 06/07/2021 16:18

I just read about how the government is slipping through a new oil rig in the North Sea (Cambo?) that is not allowed under international climate change treaties.

Yeah, much better that we ship it thousands of miles in tankers from 'old' wells in Saudi. And we pay through the nose for it and gain no jobs or tax payment.

Takingthewee · 06/07/2021 16:42

@Weebleweeble

I just read about how the government is slipping through a new oil rig in the North Sea (Cambo?) that is not allowed under international climate change treaties.

Yeah, much better that we ship it thousands of miles in tankers from 'old' wells in Saudi. And we pay through the nose for it and gain no jobs or tax payment.

How about we use less fossil fuels in the first place including those tankers? Even now, homes we build are shabbily insulated, people still allowed to drive around in big gas guzzling SUV's.

No transport plan to get us using our cars less

invisiblesuit · 06/07/2021 18:33

This is not about preventing violence. It's about making it impossible to demonstrate. Because you never know whether some small noise might disturb someone on a phone call in a nearby office.

StMarysKettle · 06/07/2021 19:02

@flashbac

The threat of 10 years in jail makes a difference in terms of deterring protest otherwise why impose it as a maximum? Sleepwalking into totalitarianism. And don't bet on getting rid of this lot next election. Not with voter ID coming in and more data surveillance and targeting of voters with bullshit in the same way vote leave was done.
This is quite a short read. From the site I linked earlier.

Will protesters face 10-year sentences for being a nuisance?
The public nuisance offence is not a new offence, but an existing, centuries old, common law offence which currently has a maximum sentence of life imprisonment.

We are introducing the offence in statute, and abolishing the common law offence, in line with the recommendations of the independent Law Commission. In doing so, we are narrowing the scope of the offence and lowering the maximum penalty from unlimited crown court penalties, to 10 years’ imprisonment.

The offence of public nuisance covers behaviours beyond those related to public order. The Law Commission identified the need for this offence as “Human inventiveness being so great, it is desirable to have a general offence for culpable acts that injure the public but do not fall within any of the specialised [existing] offences.”

Any protesters found guilty of public nuisance are likely to face penalties in line with existing sentences for public order offences.

Stricter sentences under this offence are likely to only occur in exceptional circumstances, the Law Commission recommended “as the offence is intended to address serious cases for which other offences are not adequate, if a maximum sentence is set it should be high enough to cover these cases.” Sentencing in individual cases is a matter for the independent judiciary.

Takingthewee · 06/07/2021 22:19

Ah Govt website defends the changes in the law and we should now be all reassured? lol !

flashbac · 06/07/2021 22:53

@Takingthewee

Ah Govt website defends the changes in the law and we should now be all reassured? lol !
You've said it much better than I could!

People forget what happened at the Sarah Everard vigil.

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FaceyRomford · 25/07/2021 01:42

[quote CalamityJaneDoe]@FaceyRomford

Tell that to the suffragettes, some of whom gave their lives in protest for women’s right to vote.[/quote]
Their protests were illegal at the time and further laws were passed against them while their campaign was going on. Women's suffrage owes nothing to peaceful protest,

echt · 25/07/2021 02:23

@moonbedazzled

Always a good way to make your argument, comparing a democratically elected government that can be thrown out at the next election, to a totalitarian country.
Well, that's how the National Socialists startied in Germany.
echt · 25/07/2021 02:25

Startied?????

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