To think to see the destruction of a Canadian village as a warning of what climate change could do

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www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-57678054
High temperatures and heat-related deaths were bad enough, but when the town all burns down it is a pretty worrying picture. I know they haven't yet proved it's due to global warming, but it's looking pretty likely. I'm surprised the story isn't being given more coverage (in the UK) Maybe it's a wake-up call that the effects of global warming aren't that far off.

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Scotdoc123

Who do you think influences government? Most massive social change starts at grassroots. We need both. If individuals are passive the government won’t change anything. Government are too intertwined with big business. We can’t rely on them. We have to be active and vocal.

Jesus wept, whilst the current event is certainly at the extreme end of measured events, and would be at the least very unpleasant to experience- Canada has a long recorded history of high heat events and could well have experienced similar undocumented events in the past.

Nothing like a bit of the end is nigh hysteria for the doom mongers to latch on to

I didn't see much support for China's excellent one child policy when it still existed.

Ah yes, that 'excellent' policy that resulted in the world's biggest gender imbalance in the world thanks to sex selective abortion and female baby infanticide. I wonder why people don't celebrate it more?

Badgercity

It’s already happening. We don’t have time. Action is needed now. We have kicked the can down the road for too long. Scientists have been talking about this since at least the 1989s.

It’s happening now and it’s happening more quickly than even the worst case scenario models. That’s why it’s a ‘climate emergency’.

Watchingyou2sleezes

Can you share what your level of expertise is that you disagree with 90+% of the worlds scientists?

@Lostmarbles2021 thank you.

I suppose what I’m wondering is are we on course for an actual apocalyptic event in the next 30 years that can be diverted, or have we already done the damage and more frequent environmental disasters will happen and we have to find a way to live with the inevitable fires and floods for the rest of our lifetime and try and prevent future damage? What happens if nothing is done and when will it happen? (I’m not expecting you to know the answer btw!)

The problem I have when reading about climate change is it’s either earth is doomed or denial. It’s very hard to know what the actual situation is right now and in the immediate future.

Since the 1950s

Probably mainstream accepted by the 80s

When I left uni then from a physics dept energy was one of the popular choices for applications , we all wanted to work in renewable energy, but the government at the time did not see that as a priority.

More Frequent disasters are baked in , but we can avoid them becoming the norm. We can avoid all worst case scenarios

@Watchingyou2sleezes

Jesus wept, whilst the current event is certainly at the extreme end of measured events, and would be at the least very unpleasant to experience- Canada has a long recorded history of high heat events and could well have experienced similar undocumented events in the past.

Nothing like a bit of the end is nigh hysteria for the doom mongers to latch on to

Ah okay. Thanks. I was getting worried.

Glad there’s nothing to worry about.

Aircon is a major contributor to global warming - even more than travel. New solutions must be found.

@Lostmarbles2021

TheRosesOfSuccess

You are not powerless. You can stop flying to go on holiday for one thing.

We never normally fly actually.

This is a one off journey to visit the birthplace of my late mother, who insisted we use part of my inheritance to do this trip. We will be taking her she's.

Ashes not she's

Thing is, it's possible to control climate change without the need to ban everything

Less meat not no meat
Occasionally flying not regularly
Fewer car miles not no car miles
Less stuff not no stuff

But the longer people take to make the changes the greater the changes that will be forced upon, if not us then our children

YANBU we saw what was needed during lockdown. Scientists confirmed the situation improved massively with empty roads, no flights, closed factories etc. Such a drastic change in lifestyle that would massively affect the economy would never be voted for.

So people will instead walk into a disaster that will affect the economy much worse ?

It's like refusing cancer treatment because you have a full diary

@Heyyeahyouwiththesadface

Summers are like that in the Middle East but we’ve got plenty of air conditioning!!

do you realise that is contributing to the problem?

www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/aug/29/the-air-conditioning-trap-how-cold-air-is-heating-the-world
warmer temperatures lead to more air conditioning; more air conditioning leads to warmer temperatures. The problem posed by air conditioning resembles, in miniature, the problem we face in tackling the climate crisis. The solutions that we reach for most easily only bind us closer to the original problem

Yeah, obviously, but are you going to turn off the air conditioning when it’s 47 degrees out? I thought not ....

@Watchingyou2sleezes

Jesus wept, whilst the current event is certainly at the extreme end of measured events, and would be at the least very unpleasant to experience- Canada has a long recorded history of high heat events and could well have experienced similar undocumented events in the past.

Nothing like a bit of the end is nigh hysteria for the doom mongers to latch on to

It's not at the extreme end of normal, and Canada (BC) doesn't have a history of this. The temperatures were more than 10 degrees higher than the previous record, and in June, which is typically cooler. It smashed records. Obliterated them. It was very clearly not an outlier of normal distribution.

Canada has kept records for more than a hundred years and First Nations' oral history for longer. Lytton beat the whole of Canada in recorded history.

And this isn't a country of whiners BTW. They regularly deal with temperatures in the minuses which would kill a lesser people.

By all means carry on as you are. But don't pretend there isn't a change because there is.

@Lostmarbles2021

Watchingyou2sleezes

Can you share what your level of expertise is that you disagree with 90+% of the worlds scientists?

I'm in accord with them. I just don't buy the 'climate disaster' were all doomed trope peddled about.

I've got considerable skin in the renewals game and do very well from it.

My own home utilises every renewable tech except hydroelectric (we threw quite a bit of money at trying to get permission to build a small one but to no avail) and wind (because I don't want a turbine).

Sadly people don't care until it's their turn.

Can someone explain how eating meat contributes to climate change?

@Love2cycle

Can someone explain how eating meat contributes to climate change?

Cows produce methane which is worse than CO2. Also it's incredibly inefficient to eat meat. You need more energy and water for meat calories than plant. By factors. And meat production is one of the reasons for destroying the Amazon. It's bad all around.

Just read The High House by Jessie Greengrass.

We are sleepwalking into this and need to act hard and fast. Despair when I see posts musing about whether to have a fourth child 🙄

@looptheloopinahulahoop

Yes I think it's very scary. If that "heat bomb" had been a bit further north, the Arctic would be melting. As it is, I wonder whether some of the permafrost in Alaska is melting; I know it's further north but even if it's 35 rather than 45 degrees, that's hot.

I wonder what it will actually take to part people from their SUVs and realise, finally, that cyclists are not the enemy.

Not sure about Alaska but I remember learning about the permafrost melting, when I was doing A level geography. I’m 40. We’ve known about this for over a generation & there has been insufficient political will to do anything about it.

DH & I have 1 child, no car & no passports.

Humans react to emergency situations and sometimes not even to those. Trying to get the whole of the world to take action on climate change is going to be a tall order. Sadly.