Daily mail

[UnluckyMe]

Posting on here for traffic. Admin, does mumsnet sell posts to the daily mail or are they able to legally take content from your site and reference you without any legal consequences? Seems mad that people are coming on here pouring their heart our and daily mail want to make a story out of it (sometimes twisting the truth).

Just curious to understand if it is within your control really. I read a really raw post yesterday and today as i was scrolling through headlines it was there. They've since moved it somewhere else but still - it is someone's real life!!!!

It’s someone’s real life that they choose to post on a public forum. It’s like saying can you repeat something you’ve heard shouted on the street.

It’s an Internet forum - they can lift what they want. You’re not posting in a closed secure environment.

It's a public forum, you don't have any rights once you post in public.

Well it's a public forum that anyone can access, so unfortunately, it's fair game, in the same way as Reddit.

I agree with you that it doesn't seem fair, but the only way to ensure your personal thread doesn't end up in trashy newspapers, is not to pour your heart out on a public forum.

This isn't new, it is perfectly legal for news outlets to lift threads. No payment is made to the owners of the content (MN).

Posting on an open forum is like standing on a street corner with a megaphone shouting your tale. It isn't secret, or a safe space.

It's like all social media, it's public and can be shared to whoever, mumsnet themselves even added the ability to share posts to other social media like Facebook so I doubt the have a problem with it being shared

I know the daily Mail gets a lot of hate on here (and rightly so) but I think there's a lot more people here consume their content than who would admit, there wouldn't be so many daily Mail links posted, there seems to be more links of The Sun appearing on here too over the last year another paper people claim to hate but are supporting by clicking on their site.

I've often wondered how much traffic the Daily Mail gives to Mumsnet and vice versa.

It's lazy ass journalism is what it is.

I just feel bad for the OP who posted it. Doesn't feel right at all. I suppose no tabloid has any bit of decency so what else should I have expected.

Totally get public forum etc etc but surely there are more pressing stories to report on than a mother saying she finds motherhood difficult. Definitely lazy journalism but how an editor would approve that over everything else in the world is beyond me!

I think MN probably encourage it because it's effectively free advertising for their site as well, isn't it?!

@Thehenbunringsock

It's lazy ass journalism is what it is.

I disagree. Part of journalism about following interesting stories, often with a human element. If people weren't interested in the real life stories of others, it wouldn't exist.

If you post here, as ita public, you have accept there's a chance this could happen.

I get feeling bad for the poster it happened to, but it is a risk that people take.

Just have to hope it's not that identifiable, like the one about comoletetion day the other day was.

BTW - Daily Mail the newspaper and the Website are separate operations. There's obviously some overlap in stories but they are run by different teams.

I think the entire edifice is hateful - but I regret to report that the times I have seen the rag purchased it's always been by women and the only person who sends me links from their website is my Mum.

If everyone stopped buying the paper and clicking on the site it would fold, and not a moment too soon in my book.

This topic has been done to death OP.

It’s now on a par with toilet brushes and child parking spaces.

Is that the thread in AIBU urging women not to become mothers? If so I do wish HQ would have moved that away from AIBU at least - it's not what the topic was started for. But AIBU is seen as excellent easy material fodder for the tabloids. And Jeremy Vine.

@HotToddyColdSauvignon

This topic has been done to death OP.

It’s now on a par with toilet brushes and child parking spaces.

It comes up a lot because it is really contentious and a lot of people hate it, not that there's anything they can do about it. It was not the norm when Mumsnet started, it was a truly shocking thing the first time it happened in 2009 - we had many 1000 post threads about it.

I don't know what's changed re. this subject in the last 10 or so years, but sadly it has.

@HotToddyColdSauvignon so what? it's a despicable practice by rags like the Daily Heil and the Scum. The more people point that out, the less readers they'll have over time, which just about serves them right

@HotToddyColdSauvignon

This topic has been done to death OP.

It’s now on a par with toilet brushes and child parking spaces.

and shoes off

a lot of people hate it, not that there's anything they can do about it

If people stopped buying these papers, or looking at websites it would stop.

The sun online I’ve seen a few pop in my FB feed recently

I've just logged on to find the 5k a month post, as I was flicking through the news I noticed The Sun has reported on her outgoings.

@Mayaspecialist

If you post here, as ita public, you have accept there's a chance this could happen.

I get feeling bad for the poster it happened to, but it is a risk that people take.

Just have to hope it's not that identifiable, like the one about comoletetion day the other day was.

Comowhat day?

Unless you're new to both the internet and newspapers how is this news to you?

Taking stories from online forums is as old as online forums and there's nothing anyone can do about it

Twice this month I’ve been in tabloid newspapers thanks to my posts on MN- once for a thread I’ve started, and another for a comment I made on someone else’s thread.

Not thrilled about it, but that’s the risk I run when using a public forum. I change username frequently and change details on posts so I’m less likely to be recognised.

To be fair, I discovered MN through an online “article” from a thread posted here years ago so swings and roundabouts, really.

People need to get past this idea that MN is some kind of safe space. It’s a public Internet forum FGS, it’s like standing in the street publicising your private business.

As for saying it wasn’t like this before, I think it’s safe to say that internet has changed a lot in the last 10 years or so. But that aside, some years ago there was a poster here called Riven. She had a DD with severe SN and one day she posted that she was considering putting her into care because she just couldn’t get decent support or a break. MN’ers absolutely fell over themselves to spread the word, sharing the thread on twitter and copying it to all manner of tabloid journalists, and before we knew it Riven was inundated with press outside her door, requests for interviews on ITV, etc. And that didn’t have anything to do with the mail and the like lifting the story, it had to do with members themselves taking matters into their own hands.

Riven left MN after that, and I have no idea what became of her and her DD.

But the lesson here is that while the press could lift your story, so could any average poster, and if it was eye-catching enough, it could be tweeted and shared far and wide without any money ever changing hands.

In essence, if you don’t want your private life to become public, don’t make it public by posting it on public Internet forums.