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Emotional Affair

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MrJones · 27/06/2021 11:40

Hello everyone. I have recently found out that my wife (married 10 years, together for 19) has been meeting up with another man whilst I am at work. Upset at finding out and expecting the worst, for the first time in my life, I checked her phone (please don’t hold that against me). I found a long chain of messages going back months in which he refers to himself as her ‘man friend/unplanned visitor’ and she says he is ‘always in her mind, neither unwanted nor forgotten’ and that she wants to ‘bring him into her day to day life’.

He asked if she had told me that they had been meeting up and she said no. They have made plans for him to come to our house next week whilst I’m at work.

They met on a counselling training course that they have both been on and much of the talk is about that. However, they seem to be using each other for emotional support and I think that their training together allows her to me more honest and open with him about her general feelings and wellbeing than with me. I have tried for years but she won’t talk to me in the same way she talks to him.

There is nothing in the messages to say there is anything sexual going on but I can’t help feeling betrayed that they have this emotional relationship that she wants to hide from me.

AIBU to be upset?

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Tistheseason17 · 03/07/2021 12:03

@MrJones how was Thursday? or did you chat before?

MrJones · 03/07/2021 12:47

[quote Tistheseason17]@MrJones how was Thursday? or did you chat before?[/quote]
I went home when he was due to be there. Her car was on the drive but she wasn’t home. She said she walked to get her fringe cut at the hairdressers near by. I’m planning on talking to her tonight. I have put my feelings in writing. I’ll let her read it and give her time to come back to talk to me when she’s ready. I don’t want her to feel intimidated or pressured in any way. We’ll see how it goes.

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Tistheseason17 · 03/07/2021 13:37

That is a sensible idea as it means she can really take it in.
Perhaps, go out for a walk when you give it to her so she has time to process the contents before you speak together?

MrJones · 04/07/2021 11:02

We had a long talk last night.

She explained that the man is just a friend that she finds easy to talk to due to their counselling training together. She said that he is the only person that really understands her (that hurt to hear) and that she can’t talk to me in the same way because I don’t have psychodynamic training.

I explained that I feel that sort of relationship crosses a boundary where they are more than just friends, especially as she talks to him about deeply personal things relating to me and our family. She disagreed and couldn’t see a problem.

She said that she wanted to tell me but was worried that I’d be angry. She said that she has wanted to bring him into her day to day life, with me and our family, but was not sure how. I explained that I may have had a small amount of jealously/worry if she had told me at the outset but that we could have talked about it and I’d have accepted it.

I asked if she could see how I could feel deceived and betrayed by the secrecy and that her actions were hurtful. She sat silent for an uncomfortable amount of time and then said ‘yes, I can see that’ but she said it in a very cold and unbelievable way.

She did apologize for not telling me but she didn’t apologize of any hurt caused, I think because she thought I was over reacting.

The conversation then kept drifting away from the main point, which was seeing this man. She moved it onto her childhood, how life has changed since having children, her other friends, her plans to find a job, etc. It ended with her crying about an early childhood memory, which we talked about, and then went to bed.

I think I have been over reacting and I believe her that they are friends and that there is no risk of a full blown affair.

I’m happy that she has own friendships, interests and sense of space and I don’t want to get in the way of that.

We agreed that they would only meet in public places now or at home if I’m there. I’m still not happy but it’s a compromise that I can accept.

Thank you all for your advice over the last week.

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CaitoftheCantii · 04/07/2021 11:46

I think she is over explaining - this can be a sign of not being entirely truthful. It may well be that she has a crush/an infatuation with this man which is all on her part. The friend may have no idea she feels like this.

Tistheseason17 · 04/07/2021 11:50

I am glad you have talked but I would be concerned about their relationship. Bearing in mind her counselling training she is doing a grand job at making it about her and blaming you for not having had "training". A bit of gas lighting.

Her reasons for not talking to you do not appear genuine. The fact she wants to bring him into your daily life suggests it could be an emotional affair. She has lied to protect their friendship above your relationship.

However, if it is genuine and above board, invite him over for a BBQ with other friends and watch how they interact.

MrJones · 04/07/2021 12:33

@Tistheseason17

I am glad you have talked but I would be concerned about their relationship. Bearing in mind her counselling training she is doing a grand job at making it about her and blaming you for not having had "training". A bit of gas lighting.

Her reasons for not talking to you do not appear genuine. The fact she wants to bring him into your daily life suggests it could be an emotional affair. She has lied to protect their friendship above your relationship.

However, if it is genuine and above board, invite him over for a BBQ with other friends and watch how they interact.

Another way of looking at it is that she lied to protect our relationship. God, I don't know. My head is such a mess.

She wants me to meet him so a BBQ could be a good idea.

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Tistheseason17 · 04/07/2021 13:21

She did not lie to protect your relationship - she lied to protect their relationship and that is a very different thing.

I do not have psychodynamic training but I talk to my DH.

Do a BBQ but please be cautious. And you are not to blame in this in any way - she owes you and she needs to build the trust back so don't let her make it your fault that she did not talk to you. It's all on her.

MrJones · 04/07/2021 15:38

Thank you

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QueenBee52 · 05/07/2021 20:29

She's deflecting and trying to move herself from betraying you to victim of her childhood..

please don't fall for this..

meeting him just makes it easier for her to excuse transferring her affections from you to him..

Its all bollocks OP .. 🌸

ginandbearit · 05/07/2021 20:45

Ive had psychodynamic training and I found it of some use in talking to my partner about our issues...I also.found a lot of psychodynamically trained counsellors or trainees became like converts to a cult of special knowledge and felt very superior to the muggles ..
Sorry Mr Jones , you're being kind and naive and soon to be kebabbed.. Read up on defence mechanisms and brace yourself .

lurkermum · 05/07/2021 22:07

She needs a gentle( bug huge fat assertive ) reminder about boundary’s. Her bounds are all out of sync. Very important in her field to address this.

I’d suggest she speaks to her tutors /gets into some therapy of her own.

If I where you I’d consider being quite firm. You have needs as well as your wife .

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