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To be annoyed that I can't take annual leave in the summer holidays

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Thisismynewname123 · 27/06/2021 10:01

I've been in my job a year. It's a project so there are phases and deadline. It has been delayed from original timeline, which now means that my role will have it's busiest time in the summer. I have been told that I won't be able to take any annual leave during the school summer holidays. This isn't a childcare issue. Both DH and I wfh due to covid. But DH is not happy that I'm saying that we can't do anything as a family in the summer holidays. I'm not really sure there is anything I can do. My manager is a father himself so I feel as though he should be a bit more understanding, and say that if I can find cover that I could take a few days off. Has anyone been in the same situation? I'm not really sure what I'm asking. I'm just want to vent.

OP posts:
Brefugee · 27/06/2021 10:09

your DH is being unsupportive. Your manager won't spontaneously come up with ideas of how you can have leave so you'll need to be proactive about this and come up with ideas such as long weekends and the odd day off now and again.

Do you work in a team? is anyone else having this problem?

MrsPinkCock · 27/06/2021 10:10

Block outs on holidays are fairly common, I’m an employment lawyer and have actually drafted holiday no go periods into many contracts for companies to use.

I’m in house now and our company has a ban on December holidays.

However I wouldn’t ever have worked for an employer that prevented summer holidays. Legally fine for them to do it but it wouldn’t have suited our circumstances at all with 4 DC!!

BeyondMyWits · 27/06/2021 10:12

It is hard, I'm in retail and unable to take any time off from 1 Dec to 5 Jan, any year, ever. No holiday, no cover, you work your shifts, if that coincides with Xmas eve and boxing day etc, tough, sick leave subject to return interview etc. All written into contract and pointed out before we start, but you really don't realise what a bind it is til you have done a year or 2.

You have a choice, like it or lump it. It is the reason I am leaving this year.

Perhaps a chat with your manager might find a different way, but would not count on it.

tryingtocatchthewind · 27/06/2021 10:15

You could ask if one or two odd days would be possible as that’s quite different from a two week block. However, be prepared for them to say no. Just make the most of the weekends.

Poptart4 · 27/06/2021 10:28

Would it be possible to take a Friday and a Monday off so you could at least have long weekend away?

My job has a blanket ban on holidays for the month of December which alot of people don't like but its our busiest time of the year and everyone is told at interview that this is how it is.

Your husband needs to be more supportive.

newnortherner111 · 27/06/2021 10:34

If that had been the case when you joined, then no sympathy. Having a ban now imposed in June is unreasonable in my view. Anyone wishing to book accommodation for a holiday (or not) needs more than one month's warning.

A maximum time off of say a week and of the number of people who can have the time off at once would be reasonable I think.

Thisismynewname123 · 27/06/2021 10:43

@Brefugee yes it's a very large project, so a bit team. I have a small team reporting into me so there are enough people that I should be able to find cover for a few days. I expect there are others in the team being told the same thing, but I haven't really discussed it with anyone. My role is the most affected in blocking out the whole summer. I expect others are being told a week or so in the summer that they can't take, rather than the whole period.

I understand the December block out that some workplaces have. Summer holidays feel different though, as it's the only opportunity to really go away. Especially this year, as going abroad it pretty much off the table, so it has to be the summer for any expectation of semi-decent weather.

It's not in my contract. If it was, as the project dates have changed, the blockout dates would have changed since I got my contract anyway.

@tryingtocatchthewind I will be taking odd days anyway. I haven't told my manager yet, but it's DDs birthday in the summer so at the very least I want a day off for her birthday.

@Poptart4 his job is very flexible. He does pretty much whatever hours he wants, and he's been there about 15 years. I was in my previous job for a similarly long time and it was just as flexible, so we both did whatever we wanted (obviously, as long as the job is done). It's just an adjustment .. i'm in the job so understand how difficult the summer will be, knowing what my role entails. He doesn't really get it - because he has it easy in that way, and I did previously. He wants me to go away anyway, as I wfh, and just work around it while away, but I have said there is no point me doing that, as I'm on calls all day so I couldn't go on an outing then log on in the evening, because my job doesn't work like that. He does understand, I guess, like I said, it's just an adjustment because neither of us have ever worked like that previously.

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MrsTulipTattsyrup · 27/06/2021 10:44

Having for years been the childless one in the team having to put up with parents being allowed to take half the summer off regardless of the impact on projects, which then result in my working an extra 20 hours a week when projects are due, then I can absolutely support your manager’s stance. It’s unfair on the rest of your team.

Attictroll · 27/06/2021 10:49

Tough one at short notice. If you wfh could you get an airbnb somewhere and dh entertain the kids in the day and you have walks on the beach and outings after work or at lunchtime. I know people who have managed this...

Dishwashersaurous · 27/06/2021 10:50

just take some odd days so that you get a few long weekends. Unfortunately sometimes this is just life

TwoLeftElbows · 27/06/2021 10:53

It's rubbish but you will just have to make the best of it with planning family stuff into weekends and evenings.

Or could you ask to work condensed hours with just a couple of hours on Fridays, so you will still be present to deal with urgent stuff but also have time for a family day?

"Family time" isn't much of a feature of our hols either, we tend to tag team to limit the need for childcare as my autistic child is very hard to place in it so we don't have much time all together.

OwlinaTree · 27/06/2021 10:58

Can you ask for this in writing and book something after the summer - proof to the school that you can't go away in school holiday time?

Dishwashersaurous · 27/06/2021 11:01

Also, just thinking going forward, are you likely to be on project roles going forward?

Is the job good enough to offset the lack of flexibility or should you try and get a new job

rwalker · 27/06/2021 11:02

They pay your wages and they need you .

SpringRainbow · 27/06/2021 11:02

Is this now going to be every summer or just this summer for this one project?

Is there the possibility to take the odd day rather weeks?

I know many people who have had leave bands for various reasons due to busy periods.

However, how I feel about this will depend very much on is this every summer and is there any possibility of some time off.

SwimBaby · 27/06/2021 11:04

Lots of my friends are in similar situations as they work at the airport, those still with a job that is.

NeverNotChasingDreams · 27/06/2021 11:15

My workplace only allows 1 week per person in the summer holidays (unless you have specific circumstances- then you can apply for more).
Otherwise, we'd all love to be off.
I think, within reason, they can dictate when you take your holiday.

CrazyCatsAndKittens · 27/06/2021 11:21

He could take the kids away for a week by himself. Maybe he could go and visit his parents for a week. It is what it is, so he needs to make the most of it.

newnortherner111 · 27/06/2021 11:23

Incidentally I wonder who or what has caused the project delay, as is it really unforeseen or just someone's bad planning/management? Covid has been used as an excuse for poor service (banks, BT) for example.

Rooman · 27/06/2021 11:24

My DH and I didn't take a holiday together for 6 years so we could do childcare over summer holidays without having to lay out £££ on clubs.

Your DH will survive- just plan things together for the weekends. Once we booked a caravan break Wednesday to Sunday; I took kids on the Wednesday and DH joined us after work on the Friday.

PurpleyBlue · 27/06/2021 11:30

Ask if they'd let you have a day here or there? But it's just one of those things. Lots of people aren't allowed leave at christmas or tax year end.

flippertygibbit · 27/06/2021 11:41

@NeverNotChasingDreams

My workplace only allows 1 week per person in the summer holidays (unless you have specific circumstances- then you can apply for more). Otherwise, we'd all love to be off. I think, within reason, they can dictate when you take your holiday.
Employers can actually determine when you take every single day of your holidays. DP previous job was like this. 1 week in May, 2 in July, 1 in September and 2 in December.
WB205020 · 27/06/2021 11:46

The suggestion from @Attictroll is a good one. Perhaps see if you can get a Friday off then go on a Wednesday or Thursday and come back Sunday evening or something.

Sittingonabench · 27/06/2021 11:57

It’s definitely crap but project work in my field has always been like that - it doesn’t seem unreasonable as the holiday restrictions are linked to the deadlines so it is a business need and many companies have been as supportive as they can around childcare etc. this year so I would see it as a bit of give and take

UserAtRandom · 27/06/2021 12:14

Is there any option for flexible working? So if, say you work 7-1 one day (and work longer hours on another day) you can still do a family trip out in the afternoon/evening/

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