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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To want to move 200 miles north?

18 replies

IHateLondon · 24/06/2021 22:04

The short version is - I am currently temporarily located in a family-owned home in a northern city with DS. I absolutely love it here. I love the city, the people, and feel myself for the first time in a long time. I never want to go back to the South East again. My job allows me to work from anywhere. DH needs to be loosely based in London, but probably only one day a week max. My family are abroad, DH's elderly mother is in London. DMiL made a comment to DH this week (who is staying with her for most of the week) that she thinks we are going to be moving up here permanently (she would hate that). DH told me this flippantly. I have told him seriously that I want to stay. He won't even entertain the idea, he can't bear being away from London and that far away from his DM.

There is a much longer, fairly horrific backstory which I don't feel able to go into right now, both as it's very outing (NC for this) and still traumatic for me. To cut a long story short, I was attacked last year in my home by a neighbour. The police have been horrendous, the neighbour has been tormenting me, and despite being interviewed/under investigation for ongoing harassment the police have given the attacker carte blanche to knock on my door for spurious reasons, on the basis that knocking on my door isn't illegal (even when it's clearly designed to reinforce his dominance and belief that he is untouchable). For financial reasons exacerbated by COVID, we weren't in a position to move but spent 75% of our time with ILs on both sides. I live with DH and DS (1). However, the latest attack (all four car tyres slashed) has been the final straw and I am now refusing to return to the (owned) property.

The original plan was to rent another property and rent out the owned property until we are in a position to sell and buy somewhere else. This would still be in London, but in a slightly different area. However, now I have been in the north for a while I really don't want to leave. I know it's not London's fault that I was attacked and encountered this person, and obviously there are evil people everywhere. But I have never felt completely happy where I lived previously. As an example, today I took DS swimming. There was another mum in the pool, we started talking, we had a coffee, and have another playdate next week. I have never even had another mother so much as make eye contact with me before coming here. The next door neighbour came around the second day after we got here for a cup of tea. Even the DPD delivery driver stopped to have a chat and ask how I was!

I'm really worried because I know if I pursue this seriously I will be putting my relationship on the line as DH is adamant that this is a temporary measure. I also know that I'm being selfish. But is it really selfish to think that I need to be happy to be the best possible mother to DS? For full disclosure, I am in therapy and the therapist identified nearly immediately that I had to get away for my own mental wellbeing (I suppose when it's all written down that's probably pretty bloody obvious, but I couldn't see the wood for the trees).

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Marmalady75 · 24/06/2021 22:34

I think you need to have a very open and frank discussion with your dh.
The attack and subsequent behaviour sound awful and I’m glad you are getting therapy to help you process it.

notanothertakeaway · 24/06/2021 22:36

I would think you should move away from your former home in London, to avoid living next to someone who assaulted you

But I wouldn't necessarily relocate on the basis of DPD couriers being friendly!

Hope you can find a middle ground

DdraigGoch · 24/06/2021 22:43

What are your partners objections? His job? His mother?

Oblahdeeoblahdoe · 24/06/2021 22:46

So sorry to hear about your trauma. I totally understand you wanting to stay where you are. I'm in a small town in the Midlands and love how friendly people are. Would MIL consider moving with you and DH doing a weekly commute?

IHateLondon · 24/06/2021 23:07

Thanks for the responses - yes you’re right @notanothertakeaway, in the grand scheme of things that’s such a tiny thing. I just really feel like it’s a different way of life here that I’ve just never experienced before, it’s like a fog has been lifted and I know friendlier people is probably a cliche but everyone just really seems happier and by extension I’m so much happier. Also realise this is probably reflective of changes to my own mental well-being rather than objective reality.

@DdraigGoch I don’t know how to phrase it without painting DH as a snob/pretentious or whatever because that wouldn’t be fair. But there is definitely an element of him feeling a “failure” if he isn’t in London. His DM would definitely be very emotionally manipulative but prior to all of this he only visited every other weekend, which he could easily still do by train - or on the days he needs to be in London he could stay over so the reality is he would actually end up seeing her more rather than less.

Absolutely no chance of MiL moving @Oblahdeeoblahdoe - but I do think it would be easy for DH to commute on the train if eg he needs to be in town on a Tuesday, to go down Monday night/Tuesday morning and return on Wednesday. It’s a nice train and he can get a cheapish first class upgrade so it’s very comfortable and a nice journey, he can work on train etc.

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WaterFell0w · 24/06/2021 23:08

No reason for you to go back to your former home

You can rent it out or move

Biscuitandacuppa · 24/06/2021 23:14

Life is too short not to be happy and feel safe. Many many people commute into London who only need to be there a day or two a week, Escape to the Country and Location Location wouldn’t exist without the drive to live away from the city!

IHateLondon · 24/06/2021 23:14

I think to be clear there will be no persuading DH. He’s also one of those Londoners who really makes the most (in normal times) of being in the city - someone who will pick up ROH returns, pop in to new exhibitions at obscure galleries etc. I’ve been surprised by just how unbelievably happy I have been here in a short period of time and the thought of viewing properties in London next week as planned is filling me with dread because I just don’t want to go back there.

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QuestionableMouse · 24/06/2021 23:19

Life is too short to stay somewhere that you're miserable.

bringadish · 24/06/2021 23:26

"I just don’t want to go back there."

So don't. Life is way too short.

QueenBee52 · 24/06/2021 23:30

@bringadish

"I just don’t want to go back there."

So don't. Life is way too short.

I wholeheartedly agree OP 🌸

Nannyamc · 24/06/2021 23:38

You seem far happier where you are. DH can commute on working days and visit his mother midweek. Please compromise and work out what is best for you both if anything covid has taught us how we must all adjust our lives and be happy

IHateLondon · 25/06/2021 00:05

Thank you everyone Flowers

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Wheresmybiscuit3 · 25/06/2021 01:33

If you are happier where you are then you should stay there.

DdraigGoch · 25/06/2021 01:39

There is quite a good regional provision for the arts these days. Even seaside towns in North Wales have been hosting opera for decades (just have to get the NHS to vacate Venue Cymru). Liverpool Philharmonic is easily accessible from all over the NW.

London isn't really that far away anyway. Trains from Manchester currently only take 2hr20, a figure which will halve when HS2 opens. Pre-pandemic I often travelled down to go to the Royal Albert Hall.

At the end of the day, it looks like you're just going to have to put your foot down, tell him how you feel and illustrate practical options for having one's cake and eating it.

Sciurus83 · 25/06/2021 01:41

Don't go back. The quality of life in the North, especially if you've been having financial worries is so much better. You have been through something terrible, you deserve happiness

QueenBee52 · 25/06/2021 02:26

How can He expect you to return to living there with this Assault ...

it's beyond unreasonable 😱

Cherrysoup · 25/06/2021 07:12

Can you not carry on as you are? Dh can stay an extra day for gallery visits etc. Sell the London property. I can’t believe your neighbour has got away with his behaviour. There’s no way I’d live back there ever if I’d suffered similar.

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