To apply for a job with a plan to leave by xmas?

[Ohdoleavemealone]

I hate my current place of work.
DH and I have recently started our own business with the plan to leave our jobs around xmas time. The business is a weekend venture. I currently work 3 days a week.
I was recently sent an application for a job, exactly as mine but private rather than public sector and from home.
Would you apply even though you hope to be doing your own business full time by xmas? It is also fulltime so I could potentially be working 7 days a week if I can't negotiate part time.

Depends how much you hate it I suppose.
If it was me, I'd just hang on.
Do you hate it that much to work 7 days a week if part time isn't accepted?

Morally I couldn't as I know how much effort it takes to recruit and train someone up in many jobs.

It depends on the type of job. Something like call centre or big shop that has a high turnover anyway it’s fine to just do a few months. If it’s a specialist or senior role or one that would take months of training then you should just stick out your current job for a few more months.

It wouldn't take much training but is a more significant job than call centre.

You are going to get told it's immoral but I really think it's a silly argument.

We live in a captialist society. The entire premise of our social structure is the ability to make contracts on the basis of enlightened self interest. Employers posess all the power in this market and wouldn't hesistate to hire or let someone go if it served their interest.

I think it's mad to harm your own interest based on imagined obligation. Apply for the job, do the job, if you decide to resign serve your notice- you will have fullfilled all your obligations.

@HollyBollyBooBoo

Morally I couldn't as I know how much effort it takes to recruit and train someone up in many jobs.

Hmm, except knowing how much harm is caused to someone in losing their source of income to keep a roof over their head wouldn't be factored into an employer's decision to dismiss someone.

Is it immoral for an employer to make staff redundant or dismiss them for misconduct or poor performance or because they're not the right "fit" when losing their income jeopardises the person's ability to meet their basic needs for shelter, warmth, food?

I think it depends on how much training the new job would be investing in you. Like if they spend thousands of pounds and loads of staff time on teaching you the job, and then you quit having always planned to do that, that’s pretty unethical.

If it’s a job where you can just sit down and start work on day one, then it’s less unethical.

You don't actually know for sure that your own business will take off, so it's only a "maybe". If you want to be totally fair, you could advise the potential employer that you are developing a weekend business that may eventually expand into the week.
Alternatively, you may be glad to have the steady income from working three days a week to support your fledgling business even if DH goes full-time on it at the end of the year.

@HollyBollyBooBoo

Morally I couldn't as I know how much effort it takes to recruit and train someone up in many jobs.

Hmm 🤔. These 'morals' baffle me.

Op apply for the job if you want it. There are new starters and leavers all the time. No one is irreplaceable, ok maybe a few are but you know what I mean

I would be thoroughly fucked off if someone did this to me, but I'm quite bitter at the moment as I keep being asked to interview candidates that are complete rubbish. I would be so upset to find someone to have to go through this again in a few months.

I would. You don't know if the business will launch in December these are weird times, you might be there for December and leave at a quieter time in the new-year.

There’s no guarantee that your weekend venture will make enough to support you both full time by the end of the year, so I think it’s reasonable to try and find a job you don’t hate in the meantime.

Working 7 days a week isn’t OK, though. You do need some time for R&R.

What MadeofStarStuff said.

though, as with any new business venture (even without allowing for covid restrictions) 6 months into a new business is very early to be confident 2 of you can give up other jobs and live off the new business. So if this job is better, then I'd apply for it.