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I will be fuming…

43 replies

Forstarters · 22/06/2021 09:03

If the football players meant to be self isolating are allowed to play. Gareth Southgate said ‘he’s not sure what the situation will be’. Why not? The law is quite clear - well it certainly seems to be for my child who’s isolated 3 times with no illness and missed 20 days of school for simply wafting past someone who tested positive…..this can’t be allowed to happen. AIBU?

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ChessieFL · 22/06/2021 09:04

But it’s football! It’s the most important thing ever and must go ahead no matter what!!!

ChessieFL · 22/06/2021 09:04

And yes I am being sarcastic……YANBU

ssd · 22/06/2021 09:05

It'll be interesting how it pans out

But i can well understand your anger @Forstarters

Thehenbunringsock · 22/06/2021 09:35

It'll piss me off too, namely because we've had to isolate twice, two weeks running, because my kids didn't get their symptoms at the same time. First kid was covid negative, second kid got the exact same symptoms a few days later and common sense apparently wasn't good enough.

hellywelly3 · 22/06/2021 09:36

It’s absolutely ridiculous that they’re even considering having players who have tested positive play. People have had to take unpaid time off work, kids have missed even more school all for isolation by being in contact never mind testing positive.

Passthesauce · 22/06/2021 09:39

YANBU. I am in favour of the tournament going ahead, I think it's a great morale booster but subject to the same restrictions as the rest of us. Yes, it will be gutting for teams to lose players but all teams are potentially in the same situation.
It may not be the tournament as planned but at least the players still get to play.

buffyajp · 22/06/2021 09:40

@Forstarters

If the football players meant to be self isolating are allowed to play. Gareth Southgate said ‘he’s not sure what the situation will be’. Why not? The law is quite clear - well it certainly seems to be for my child who’s isolated 3 times with no illness and missed 20 days of school for simply wafting past someone who tested positive…..this can’t be allowed to happen. AIBU?
Why don’t you get equally as angry about the fact that no other Scotland player is isolating. That is a far bigger load of nonsense as Gilmour was seen hugging his team mates and manager at the end of the game. Not to mention the table tennis video that has disappeared. Other than that I do agree, they should be isolating for the full time as should at least some of the Scotland team and their manager.
Deadleaf29 · 22/06/2021 09:40

Totally agree. How the entire Scotland team (presumably all in the same dressing room and I don’t believe for one second consistently socially distanced and wearing masks) don’t have to isolate I don’t understand. It’s hardly going to encourage anyone else to comply.

Ditto Michael Gove and his weaselling out of isolating a few weeks ago as part of some pilot scheme that funnily enough doesn’t seem to have been made widely available and advertised to anyone else….

Quartz2208 · 22/06/2021 09:42

I think from reading between the lines there are certain rules and procedures in place - the problem is here is that the three players broke the rules. They had close contact off the pitch inside after the match and it is that which is causing the issue.

The other complication is that he is positive on Monday - so Friday wouldnt necessarily count if it wasnt for the indoor element of it all.

That is England though I dont know what the rules are for Scotland. I assume it would depend on whether he was in close contact with anyone on the Saturday and Sunday

Clickbait · 22/06/2021 09:44

If they do let the footballers play (which I'm not completely against) then they also need to revise the guidance for schools.

My DS (year 10) was recently isolating for 10 days despite four negative tests (three lateral flow and one PCR) during that time.

Fine if they decide to revise the guidance - but it needs to be for everyone, not just football players. Our kids are missing out on their education, sport, social lives.

1happyhippie · 22/06/2021 09:45

I am more angry that phe have decided there were no close contacts in the Scotland squad who are required to self isolate!
How can that even be possible?
Surely gilmour has been closer to his own team mates than the two England players!
It’s nonsense.

VerticalHorizon · 22/06/2021 09:48

I believe they are all getting positive flow tests, and there are some regulations in place (England, not Scotland) to deal with this situation if they have consistently clear tests.

Some of the teams were going to be based in Scotland, but changed to England when they realised Scotland's rules would be more stringent than England's

VerticalHorizon · 22/06/2021 10:02

*PCR tests

VeganVeal · 22/06/2021 10:13

I think after such a hard time after lockdown the Euro's offer some form of happiness, ok there may be a slight risk but I am sure it will be well managed. Schools on the other hand can be a pool of illness spreading and it need so to be controlled.

Play on I say. I'll be there with my rattle and whistle cheering on our brave boys, hurrah!

HopeHappy · 22/06/2021 10:14

@1happyhippie

I am more angry that phe have decided there were no close contacts in the Scotland squad who are required to self isolate! How can that even be possible? Surely gilmour has been closer to his own team mates than the two England players! It’s nonsense.
Exactly what I said last night.

Seems like someone is stretching the boundaries of what is considered "close contact" to the extreme.

If the Scotland players don't have to isolate and the England players do, it's the Scottish team that's going to end up looking ridiculous/creating an outbreak in the camp.

Don't get me started on how he might have contracted it too, when I thought the most sensible thing to do would be for all teams to be in a closed group bubble throughout the tournament.

Jimbryno · 22/06/2021 10:16

It's an absolute farce imo. Once again there appears to be one rule for the rich and famous, another for the rest of us.

It does go to show how nonsensical the rules are surrounding school children having to isolate if someone has tested 'positive'.

BlueJay12 · 22/06/2021 10:22

This has totally pissed me off too and you are definitely NOT BU OP. My DD13 has had to self-isolate 3 times in as many months due to PE, despite it being in a large outdoor space, but she may have wafted past the child concerned or god forbid touched the same cricket ball. Its interesting how the teacher never has to self-isolate even though the entire class gets sent home.
My other question in respect to Gilmour would be this: if they are all in bubbles and keeping away from others to prevent Covid entering the camps, how on earth has he tested positive in the first place?

mog27 · 22/06/2021 10:24

I think that people are finally starting to see this whole thing is ridiculous. From the football, Ascot & the g7 summit it's quite clear that we have one rule for us and another for them. We are making whole year groups in schools isolate but apparently it's okay for footballers not to.

Shapesorted · 22/06/2021 10:26

I agree, my year 10 has just been sent home this morning for being a contact thus missing his GCSE mocks. Ridiculous that there are different rules for 'them' and 'us' and I'm an absolute football fan.

LoopTheLoops · 22/06/2021 10:28

Oh wow that’s really bad! A teacher in my sons class has tested positive so my son needs to isolate for 10 days and my other 2 children who don’t actually need to isolate but I have to keep them off school as well as I’m a lone parent and no one else to take them!

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Forstarters · 22/06/2021 10:29

@bluejay12 yes, there are 4 years currently out at my child’s school yet all the teachers are in. How is this possible?

@verticalhorizon I don’t necessarily think that’s a bad idea. But then it should be the same for school kids too. None of the kids in the 4 years have had a positive PCR yet have all missed 10 days of school. On top of the 40% already missed through lockdowns. Can’t they just test after day 3 and then head back to school?

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worktrip · 22/06/2021 10:29

So why aren't the entire Scotland team isolating?

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Forstarters · 22/06/2021 10:31

@worktrip indeed!

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SamW98 · 22/06/2021 10:31

I might be cynical but it does seem from what we've seen over the last few weeks that when there's big corporate money (and taxes from betting) involved, the rules don't seem to apply in the way they do to the rest of us

Palavah · 22/06/2021 10:32

@Deadleaf29

Totally agree. How the entire Scotland team (presumably all in the same dressing room and I don’t believe for one second consistently socially distanced and wearing masks) don’t have to isolate I don’t understand. It’s hardly going to encourage anyone else to comply.

Ditto Michael Gove and his weaselling out of isolating a few weeks ago as part of some pilot scheme that funnily enough doesn’t seem to have been made widely available and advertised to anyone else….

The trial is running. I am self-isolating and had a text about it.