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... to expect mums at dd's school not to be filled with hate for me because i have to give a witness statement after one of them hit a pregnant ladies car head on after having a couple of drinks b4 the school run!!

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alittleone2 · 21/11/2007 12:12

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KerryMum · 21/11/2007 23:23

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moondog · 21/11/2007 23:23

lo littleone at SAS manoeuvre.
Wot an arse the drunkard sounds.
Pissed.. and in a 4X4.
She deserves transportation to Van Diemens land in bowels of a creaky ship.

krang · 22/11/2007 10:29

You are totally in the right.

Make sure you tip your local paper off when she appears before magistrates. They will then print her name and address and what she did. Hee, hee, hee. This will make a great local story.

SCHOOL RUN SCUM: DRUNKEN MOTHER CRASHES INTO PREGNANT WOMAN
"Her kids were in the back," says shocked witness littleone.

Lizzylou · 22/11/2007 10:35

LOL @ Littleone's SAS school drop off plan.

The drunk driver sounds like a total beeatch tbh, cannot believe she has harpies supporting her after what she's done!

Lizzylou · 22/11/2007 10:36

OOh yes, make an anonymous tip off to local paper, great idea Krang.

Swedes2Turnips1 · 22/11/2007 10:43

If there is whispering going on within school - it is surely whispering about the drunk driver, not you.

corblimeycharlie · 22/11/2007 10:47

Ok - against my better judgement I'm coming in to defend the indefensible.
I work with drink drivers and in the main they are not scum, they are mostly normal people who have made a mistake. They will be baned for a min of 12 months, fined and receive a criminal record. Most of them have made a mistake because they haven't planned well enough or their emotions were out of control and the alcohol made them think they were either ok to drive. Don't forget alcohol affects your judgement so that make effective decision making impossible.

Of course I support alittleone2's decision to make a statement and I would not hesitate to report a drink driver myself - and have done, but maybe we could have a little compassion for people who make mistakes sometime - as we all do.

alittleone2 · 22/11/2007 10:52

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corblimeycharlie · 22/11/2007 11:02

I know what you mean alittleone2 but until you meet people who have lost their jobs, homes, relationships because of a mistake....
As I said I'm not and never never would defend drink driving. It's just the scum thing that gets me.
As someone else said she may have failed the road side test but as time passes and alcohol is eliminated from the body she could have passed the Police station test and she would not then be prosecuted.

Remember it takes 1 hour for 1 unit of alcohol to to be processed and removed from the body so in real term if you drink a bottle of wine of 13% it will be 10 units and needs 10 hours to be removed.
Who can say with any certainty they have never drunk driven? after a big night out???

EmsMum · 22/11/2007 11:18

People make mistakes. True.

But badmouthing the OP is scummy. Instead of trying to justify herself when she must know deep down she was wrong if she failed the breathalyzer, she should have kept her mouth shut.

littleone, tell whoever relayed you the truth and it should filter back. "very sad, obviously her judgement and memory is clouded, she failed the breath test.... " keeping to a more-in-sorrow-than-in-anger tone. Because it is sad.

Hope things get cleared up soon.

krang · 22/11/2007 11:18

Um, I can say with certainty that I've never driven drunk. Ever. It's actually quite easy to not do. You just don't drive if you've had a drink. Not rocket science, really.

I can't feel sorry for someone who has lost their job because of a mistake like that - a mistake which can and regularly does kill and maim completely innocent people who just had the misfortune to be in the path of a drunken fool. It's something I find it very hard to be compassionate about, I'm afraid.

alittleone2 · 22/11/2007 11:19

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starfish2 · 22/11/2007 11:19

Corblimeycharlie, I know exactly what you mean. But his woman was on she school run, not a big night out. She cannot say she did not know when she needed to pick up her kids from school... This type of mistake is just very very bad. And when a mistake is clearly made you should just apologise and shut up...
alittleone2, schoolgate cliques are just awful. Try and talk to someone who can relay the message that said woman was drunk and wrong.

starfish2 · 22/11/2007 11:21

hehehe. cross-posts, alittleone2!

lemonaid · 22/11/2007 11:22

Would she not even be prosecuted for careless driving, having sped round the corner, lost control and hit a stationary car head on in front of two police officers?

(Incidentally, I can say with certainty that I've never drunk driven after a big night out, as I virtually didn't drive at all until DS was born and have only had one big night out since then, which was a Friday and I didn't drive until the Monday. And come to think of it, I am now too old to have big nights out if I intend to do anything the next day.)

alittleone -- I would be very inclined to take the least scary of the coven aside and point out that the accident happened right in front of two police officers, that you were directly behind the woman who was hit so that if she was on the wrong side of the road, so was the entire queue of traffic, and ask in concern tone of voice if she's heard how X's blood test at the police station turned out because you were concerned for her licence when she failed the breathalyser test. Or possibly drip-feed those one at a time.

alittleone2 · 22/11/2007 11:28

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corblimeycharlie · 22/11/2007 11:30

I did say I was defending the indefensible
Agree this woman's behaviour is appalling and in my experience unusual.
I think the tone of the thread was becoming a bit pitchforks at the ready and I felt obliged to give it a little balance - I knew it wouldn't be appreciated, but hey! in the interests of debate and all that.

alittleone2 · 22/11/2007 11:32

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blueshoes · 22/11/2007 11:35

corblimey, a mistake worthy of sympathy is usually accompanied by contrition. Don't see any form of regret on the driver's part. If anything, she is trying to push the blame on others and (possibly) getting her clique to demonise the OP.

Sorry, I cannot agree with you. The driver deserves to have the book thrown at her, for the safety of others.

corblimeycharlie · 22/11/2007 11:42

Blueshoes - I wasn't really talking about the woman in alittleone2's school more the attitude towards drink driving in general.
I have agreed that her behaviour in really poor and as I've said unusual. In 5 years of working with thousands of drink drivers I've only met one who had a child in the car at the time (I see their court papers and read all the statements - i'm involved in rehabilitation) and she had a major alcohol problem.

blueshoes · 22/11/2007 11:47

I see, that's fine. I appreciate your raising the issue of mistake. But have you worked with the victims of drink drivers and the families of those victims?

It IS one mistake. But the consequences can be devastasting. And there are campaigns out there and press reports. And most of us religiously keep to the limit for this reason.

lemonaid · 22/11/2007 11:59

I think cbc is suggesting that, actually, most people don't religiously keep to the limit -- they think they do, but may end up driving the morning after the night before when actually over the limit. Several recent campaigns have focused on that so clearly it is a common problem. No idea how widespread, though.

SoupDragon · 22/11/2007 12:43

"Who can say with any certainty they have never drunk driven? after a big night out???"

Me for one.

noyummymummy · 22/11/2007 12:46

My other concern would be the kids of all those involved and how they are dealing with the incident? Or are they too young to understand? I would worry that the kids of the mummy mafia would copy the appalling behaviour of their parents.

You have done the right thing and hopefully the woman will get some help on the drinking front.

VictorianSqualor · 22/11/2007 12:47

Me too, but then I don't drive.
I would guarantee my DP and his mother could both say that too, I have been at his motehrs house when she has refused to go out because she drank the night before, and has even got her husband to move the car for her if it is blocking the driveway. She has also always been very insistent that neither of her sons drive the day after drinking, giving them alift if they need to get somewhere or just nagging til the realise it isn't important.
It's something which no-one should risk.

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