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Boris Johnson in the sea

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sambaa · 13/06/2021 14:14

Did anyone else find the coverage of this mildly annoying. I found it to be so for three reasons -

  1. the BBC commentator made a joke about “oh is that Angela Merkel a bit further out?” Boris is the size he is, but if it were a woman of a similar size the papers would have a field day (or just any female politician of any size tbh).

  2. He has then set it up so that he is filmed walking down the beach with his shirt off. Carrie, of course, can’t be pictured in a swimsuit because of the way the press / society is, so she’s walking alongside in a long dress (even though she’s 20 years younger and the rest of it).

  3. I can’t stand him anyway.

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justsaymaybe · 13/06/2021 15:19

Those who criticise people that they don't like for how they look should grow up.

Criticise policies not looks.

It makes you no better than the media you are complaining about.

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RubyViolet · 13/06/2021 15:19

I just don’t understand how people can’t see why he does this stuff. He creates these stories to divert attention from the mess he is making. He diverts our gaze.
The roadmap out of Lockdown is in jeopardy because of decisions he took not to close our borders to the Indian variant. This will cost lives and livelihoods.
And his Brexit deal is damaging businesses and losing us trade.
Meanwhile our newspapers write about him having a lovely swim in the sea…..

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itsgettingwierd · 13/06/2021 15:20

If he wants a blatant PR stunt - bring out Wilfred again.

Haven't seen any pictures of his face but even from the back that kid looks cute and Carrie looks really at ease with him and a natural.

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OhWhyNot · 13/06/2021 15:22

Yes promoting

Agree she would be flaunting her curves in a closely fitted flattering swim suit

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MrsBunHat · 13/06/2021 15:22

I just don’t understand how people can’t see why he does this stuff. He creates these stories to divert attention from the mess he is making. He diverts our gaze.

Well he might divert yours but this doesn't for a second make me forget what a bad PM he is or forgive him for Brexit. Why should it?

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mumwon · 13/06/2021 15:29

Now where is a Canadian whale when you need one Grin

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viques · 13/06/2021 15:31

@newnortherner111

Sympathy for the fish and other sea life.

I bet he had a sneaky wee.
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ThursdayWeld · 13/06/2021 15:31

I don't understand this thread, OP. You say it's about coverage of politicians. But then you go on and on about one politician. What's your point?

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Roussette · 13/06/2021 15:34

I don't think his appearance is relevant

I think it's very relevant. Not his weight, I'm not criticising that. But come on.... compared to the likes of Ursula von der Luyen, the Irish PM, Joe Biden and Macron and the other attendees.. he just looks unkempt.
Everyone looked very smart but he seems to have trouble with that, and if he stopped ruffing up his hair (caught on film) before he speaks to anyone, it might help.

The weather was nice, the event went well... but Boris at the head of this just showed us up as a country. Now let's see how NI goes... feelings have been made clear by Biden, Macron etc.

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MingeofDeath · 13/06/2021 15:36

I know he has loads of kids to God knows how many different women but Boris looks as if he is terrible in bed.

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CoRhona · 13/06/2021 15:36

New York Times piece:

Boris Johnson Is a Terrible Leader. It Doesn’t Matter.
June 11, 2021
By Samuel Earle


LONDON — Boris Johnson, Britain’s freewheeling, clownish prime minister, is about to play host.

On June 11, the day after a private meeting with President Biden, Mr. Johnson is scheduled to welcome other Group of 7 leaders to Cornwall, on the southwestern coast of England, to discuss climate change, the global pandemic recovery and the retreat of liberal democracy around the world.

Yet Mr. Johnson may have other things on his mind. Over the past few months, a series of scandals and allegations has put the prime minister under unusual pressure. There have been accusations of corruption, reports of bitter rivalries on his closest team and, to top it off, explosive testimony from his former chief adviser, Dominic Cummings, that laid responsibility for the handling of the pandemic in Britain — where over 125,000 people have died of Covid-19 — squarely at Mr. Johnson’s door. Story by story, scandal by scandal, Mr. Johnson has been exposed as a slapdash, venal, incompetent leader.

But it doesn’t seem to matter. The Conservatives, despite the controversy, are still comfortably ahead in the polls — and even managed to defeat the opposition Labour Party in a recent by-election, claiming the northeastern constituency of Hartlepool for the first time. And Mr. Johnson, for all the outrage and acrimony, can greet his fellow global leaders in a spirit of triumph. With healthy approval ratings and at the helm of a party boasting an 80-seat majority, his power is assured.

Given Mr. Johnson’s inaptitude for office, bracingly illuminated by Mr. Cummings’s testimony, that’s quite remarkable. Speaking to Parliament for over seven hours on May 26, Mr. Cummings, who masterminded Mr. Johnson’s election win in December 2019 — but who was ousted from his role as chief adviser a year later — tore into the government’s catastrophic mishandling of the pandemic, eviscerated the prime minister’s character and declared him “unfit for the job.”

Mr. Johnson’s initial failure to take the virus seriously is well documented, but some of the details were still astonishing. According to Mr. Cummings, Mr. Johnson initially claimed that the coronavirus “is only killing 80-year-olds” and wanted to be injected with the coronavirus live on television to show that there was nothing to worry about. (As it happened, Mr. Johnson contracted the virus in late March and spent a week in a hospital.)

The revelations came against a backdrop of reports exposing the Conservatives’ dodgy dealings during the pandemic: Covid-19 contracts worth billions of pounds going to friends of Conservative lawmakers with no experience in the health sector, business tycoons with direct lines to the prime minister to push their interests and a lavish renovation of the prime minister’s residence at Downing Street that involved a secret donation by a Tory backer. Talk of sleaze and Britain’s “chumocracy” has permeated even the typically loyal pages of the right-wing press.

But Mr. Johnson (whose reputation for not just surviving career-ending controversies but thriving on them has earned him nicknames like “Teflon Johnson,” “Houdini” and, less flatteringly, “the greased piglet”) has coasted through the turbulence. Engulfed in scandal, unassailably popular — this has always been the essence of brand Boris. In his testimony, Mr. Cummings recalled complaining to Mr. Johnson that the handling of the pandemic was “chaos.” “Chaos isn’t that bad,” the prime minister replied, according to Mr. Cummings. “Chaos means that everyone has to look to me to see who’s in charge.”

The chaos may suit Mr. Johnson, but for Britain it has been devastating. The ultimate proof of the prime minister’s failings during the pandemic lies not with Mr. Cummings but in the concrete numbers: Mr. Johnson has led Britain to one of the highest Covid death rates in the world, overseen one the worst economic downturns in the Group of 7 and imposed the third-strictest lockdown globally. The success of the nation’s vaccination program — Britain has delivered more doses than any other country in Europe — has let Mr. Johnson reframe this tragedy as a triumph. But for tens of thousands of grieving families, it comes as little consolation.

Yet for all the specific peculiarities of Mr. Johnson’s persona — a dizzying blend of deception, bravado and self-deprecation — the jarring dissonance that defines his government, at once electorally successful and socially destructive, is not particular to the current prime minister. In many ways, it is the story of the modern Conservative Party. The party’s founding promise, laid down in Robert Peel’s Tamworth Manifesto in 1834, was to stop Britain from becoming a “perpetual vortex of agitation.” Since the Conservatives regained power in 2010, Britain has become just that, with two referendums, three prime ministers and four general elections.

The Conservatives have flourished in these conditions, winning each general election since 2010 with a larger share of the vote than the last. But the spoils of victory have not been widely shared. Wages have not risen against inflation for the longest period since the Napoleonic era, a third of children now grow up in poverty, and state welfare is now one of the stingiest in the developed world.

In Cornwall, where Mr. Johnson will host the Group of 7 leaders in a boutique seaside hotel, Britain’s social and economic misery is plain for all to see. In 2008, Cornwall was one of three areas in the United Kingdom to suffer among the worst levels of deprivation in Europe; now it is one of seven. And the number of neighborhoods in Cornwall that rank among the most deprived in England has more than doubled since 2010. Across the country, Tory rule has coincided with a coarsening of living conditions.

Still, the Conservatives swagger on, unperturbed, maybe even energized, by the chaos and deprivation around them. The vote to leave the European Union in 2016 — led, opportunistically, by Mr. Johnson — reconfigured the electoral map and rejuvenated the Conservative Party. Brexit’s “Year Zero” effect, as one Conservative minister put it, allowed the party to reinvent itself as an anti-establishment force, while retaining its wealthy backers, and to tap into the dreams and anxieties of English nationalism more persuasively.

Despite all the havoc the Conservatives have caused, the party is in a stronger position than ever. And Mr. Johnson — the man who seems only ever to fail upward, blundering from one success to the next — is at its beating heart. His fellow leaders, few of whom possess comparable security, may well look on enviously.

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FillerAngel · 13/06/2021 15:38

Body shaming is a grim thing to do whether it’s Boris or his wife or a random on the beach.

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SoapboxFox · 13/06/2021 15:39

Who cares if he went for a swim? Obviously he was neither attempting to flaunt his physique nor staying out of the water just in case anyone criticised him for swimming. He's just a bloke at the beach.

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UrbanRambler · 13/06/2021 15:47

He looks a bit overweight, but he's not as heavy as he was before, so perhaps he has been taking steps to be healthier and a swim in the sea is great exercise. Carrie seems to handle public life well, she just quietly gets on with things and isn't an attention seeker. She would probably have joined him for a swim, but knew her body would be scrutinised and comments would be made on any small amount of post pregnancy tummy fat, so she decided against it. I see nothing wrong with any of this, even if Boris is happy to enjoy a bit of PR, I doubt the swim was for that sole purpose.

He is not the perfect PM, he made some mistakes along the way, but I don't agree that all the Covid deaths are his fault. Had he locked the country down severely at the start, before deaths rose enough to make the hard of thinking take the virus seriously, the public would not have been on board. Also, people only tolerate harsh lockdowns for short periods of time, so the earlier he locked down, the earlier people would have begun ignoring the rules. Even now, while some people are calling for a delay to the final opening up of things, others are complaining that the economy can't take the damage of any restrictions continuing. He just can't win, no matter what he does. If anyone needs a relaxing swim, he does.

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RubyViolet · 13/06/2021 15:49

@SoapboxFox

Who cares if he went for a swim? Obviously he was neither attempting to flaunt his physique nor staying out of the water just in case anyone criticised him for swimming. He's just a bloke at the beach.

He’s not just a bloke on the beach though. He’s our Prime Minister representing us on a global stage.
Total cringe.
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W1spaWh1sper · 13/06/2021 15:49

Hottest week of the year so far
Most lock down restrictions have ended - hurrah !
The chance for a dip in the sea
YES Grin

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Sparklingbrook · 13/06/2021 15:51

Let's face it, Boris cannot do anything because everything he does is perceived as wrong.
I had no idea he had been swimming in the sea until I read this thread and I don't personally have a problem with it. Confused makes no difference to anything.

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3cats2kids · 13/06/2021 15:53

Agree it all PR and distraction. Carefully staged pictures where you can’t see the baby’s face etc…

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UrbanRambler · 13/06/2021 15:53

@FillerAngel

Body shaming is a grim thing to do whether it’s Boris or his wife or a random on the beach.

@FillerAngel I agree, it's vile. I'm a healthy weight for my height, but at the top end, and very self conscious about my body. I admire people who just don't care what people think, and go for it - life is too short to worry about what others think. Even so, I haven't worn a swimsuit in years.
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Sparklingbrook · 13/06/2021 15:53

He’s not just a bloke on the beach though. He’s our Prime Minister representing us on a global stage
Total cringe

What else is he not allowed to do? Confused Saying that reminds me of when the Headteacher would get on the coach at the beginning of a school residential and remind us we were 'representing the school' Hmm Grin

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SoapboxFox · 13/06/2021 15:57

He’s our Prime Minister representing us on a global stage

It was well before the working day began. If one of the other delegates had taken an early morning swim would you feel they were misrepresenting their country to the globe?

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Roussette · 13/06/2021 15:57

I don't care a fig whether he swims in the sea or not.
I don't care a fig what his body shape is like

I do care what he's doing to this country.

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MrsPeacockInTheLibrary · 13/06/2021 15:58

I just hope those photos were taken somewhere where it was ok for photographers to be, and not somewhere he expected privacy. He is entitled to go for a swim.

Or it was all staged.

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dottiedodah · 13/06/2021 15:58

I dont have a problem with him having a dip.Bit mystified as to why Carrie cant be seen in her swimsuit though?

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PPCD · 13/06/2021 15:58

It felt very staged.

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