to think this is too much noise

[junipertree2]

My neighbour has two daughters (late teens). A couple of times this week, the girls have come home late (after midnight), getting dropped off in cars, and they sit outside for about an hour with the engines running, windows down, laughing between the cars and being just a bit giddy and loud. But this is right outside my window, and my son's. And on week nights, when we both have to get up before 7. Because it's summer and very close, we sleep with windows open. I am really finding it very hard to sleep with shrill voices outside to all hours. AIBU and a total misery, or is this a no-no on a school night?

YANBU. They are being very inconsiderate.

I'm in a similar position. Though in our case, we live in a flat above a very closely knit family who have grown up children and friends and like to chat outside of an evening after drinks in their restaurant.

My husband and I don't have any children and work from home so we can afford to cut them a bit of slack (we understand that they probably have been separated over lockdown and are now catching up). However in your position, with a young school age child, I would be inclined to ask them to please keep the noise down a little. They are BU at least in keeping the engines running for half an hour whilst chatting. It's a waste of fuel and bad for the environment - to say nothing of the noise.

Why not pop a friendly and polite note through your neighbour's letterbox explaining the situation. Stress that you understand that their daughters are well within their rights to have fun and see their friends (especially post 2020), but you have a young boy who really needs his sleep and you'd be very grateful if they at least switched the car engines off and kept the goodnight conversations a bit shorter.

They are entitled to enjoy their teenage years, but you and your son are also entitled to a healthy night's sleep.

YANBU, by the way.

YANBU - however I can't imagine speaking the the neighbours would be of any help to you. The either hear it and don't care, or don't hear it so won't understand that you do.

I wouldn't be putting notes through the letterbox. Go round and explain that the noise is impacting on your family and ask them to keep it down.

It's just part of living in a community.
I'm pretty sure there will have been times when your getting up before 7 has woken up their teens who would live to be asleep at that time.

It might be worth mentioning to the girls when you see them, as they won't realise how much engine noise and conversation carries at that time of night. However, if you sleep lightly, and live in a town or city (anywhere that isn't an isolated dwelling) you have to make decisions as to if you have the window open or not, and if you wear ear plugs or not, if you really are woken by every noise.

I'd just poke my head out of the window and tell them to keep it down please, because you have to be up at 5.

They probably don't realise you can hear them.

where i am it's illegal to do that (make noise at that time, leave your car idling at any time).

But yes it's unacceptable.

OK thanks! If it continues I will speak to the parents. They are actually really nice girls but teenagers are so freaking loud!

My house is in a spot where people like to chat after the pub with engines running and lots of noise.

I put up with it for about 10 minutes and then I stick my head out of the window and say something like "can I ask you really nicely if you wouldn't mind moving away - only you've been here a while now and I can hear your engine and chatting inside my house - would you mind?

9 times out of 10 they say "we're just leaving now" and bugger off.

You get the odd twat but mostly they just don't realise.

It's just part of living in a community.
I'm pretty sure there will have been times when your getting up before 7 has woken up their teens who would live to be asleep at that time

Bit different..