To encourage her to complain about this

[Canwe666]

When dd was an inpatient she had restraint that caused bruising all down her arms. She always says that they throw her to the floor which was a hard surface.

Did they give a reason?

The were right to restrain as she had escaped and I told her obviously she was in the wrong to do so. But two very large men restraining a young woman and bruising her and throwing her to
Floor I can’t say is right

How do you suggest they restrain patients that are physically trying to escape?

Yabu

YABU.

I would complain about that. That's excessive force.

What does she mean thrown to the floor?

Is there cctv on the unit?

She should have it questioned. Some men go for such work because they like inflicting damage and heavily restraining people. More organisations are using private companies and people are being injured and dying at their hands.

I, as a 5"2' then just under 9 stone have restrained people and not caused what you describe. If she is fit and well, so no medical reasons for easy bruising, it sounds that it could be ott.

@soreenqueen21

"I'm not sure somehow committed to a psych unit who is actively trying to escape is an entirely reliable account of exactly what happened while being restrained?"

That's how abuse was missed for decades. Some people will have clarity.

She said before when they restrained her different staff they got her under her arms which left no damage so I believe there was a way to restrain her without hurting her. She even told one of the men he was hurting he didn’t loosen his grip.

When they got her inside the unit instead of placing her in the floor the throw her

I don't think you have the whole story here.

Someone trying to escape is a danger to themselves - they can't waste time looking around for smaller or female staff if there are two "very large men" right there.

As for "thrown to the ground" - on the surface yes sounds awful but you really need to understand the circumstances. They were restraining your DD for her own good.

I hope she's getting better.

Don’t complain. I work in that sector and it’s bloody awful what the staff have to manage on a daily basis just to try and keep the patients safe. They all adhere to restraint policy and it’s incredibly rare to have any issues with this - staff do not physically harm patients just for the fun of it.

I’ve seen colleagues bitten, punched, head butted, vomited on..... they still have to adhere to policy when laying hands on. Please try and see it from their point of view. I really hope your daughter is ok.

If she was thrashing or potentially harmful then yes, 'throwing' her was fine. The chances are it was more of a shove or a push- they clearly didn't pick her up and actually throw her. No need to complain but you may wish to speak to a professional who can explain what force they can and do use.

Without more information this is very difficult.
Are you next of kin?
When a relative is sectioned we are next of kin (well DH really) and we always discuss any feedback from said relative with the ward staff or his social worker. There has always been an explanation, always been the paperwork etc.

It's not excessive force. Anyone struggling agains a forcible hold is going to create bruising. If she was attempting to escape then she clearly wasn't cooperating.

Was she struggling/thrashing/trying to hit them?

It sounds like this isn't the full story.

Of course you should complain. There should be CCTV to clarify everything. If they used excessive force then appropriate action will be taken, if they did nothing wrong then nothing will happen. If you complain then either no harm is done or someone dangerous is removed. If you don't complain then either no harm is done or someone dangerous continues to be a risk.

She’s not aggressive so would never hurt anyone.

Yes complain. There's no reason for throwing anyone on a floor ever, no matter what. I think you'll get lots of people telling you it's fine in here though.

@Vursayles

Don’t complain. I work in that sector and it’s bloody awful what the staff have to manage on a daily basis just to try and keep the patients safe. They all adhere to restraint policy and it’s incredibly rare to have any issues with this - staff do not physically harm patients just for the fun of it.

I’ve seen colleagues bitten, punched, head butted, vomited on..... they still have to adhere to policy when laying hands on. Please try and see it from their point of view. I really hope your daughter is ok.

Just because YOUR workplace adheres to the rules doesn't mean they all do.

You don't know they didn't throw her. There's plenty of hideous cases of abuse of vulnerable people by those who are supposed to be looking after them.

I don't have enough knowledge to comment,just wanted to wish your daughter well