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To be inwardly cringing for Matt Handcock

45 replies

MouseyTheVampireSlayer · 10/06/2021 11:54

I'm no fan of the man, but the 'explanations' are so cringey to watch.

Just say you got it wrong and say sorry.

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the80sweregreat · 10/06/2021 14:15

My dad died in a care home from covid last May . . It was blamed on outside sources walking it in to them all kinds of things on the scant letter they sent us saying sorry. Blamed on everyone but the government and lack of ppe and putting others in the home out of hospital or whatever went on ( what really went on)
No, I won't forget what they did , even if it's carefully covered up. Which it will be.

DrManhattan · 10/06/2021 14:31

@FrankDarko
He is giving evidence / more lies on sky now

Emilyontmoor · 10/06/2021 14:38

the80s I am sorry. My friend, an OT, told me in early March they had revoked the safeguarding legislation that would enable care home managers to refuse untested patients being sent to them from hospitals. She knew that many of her patients would die as a result. It was heartbreaking, like watching a car crash in slow motion. I will not forget either Flowers

GlutenFreeGingerCake · 10/06/2021 14:40

Ok people have short memories but I think we all remember there was a shortage of PPE and a lot of other things the govt did wrong. These may be forgiven if the current response leads us out of the pandemic with the vaccines etc. But it is not forgotten.

Nicolastuffedone · 10/06/2021 14:42

There was definitely a shortage of PPE. My ex colleague (40) died as a direct result of it!

IdblowJonSnow · 10/06/2021 14:46

He absolutely does not deserve anyone cringing on his behalf! Don't waste your energy.
Scumbag like the rest of the Tories.
Also enjoying 'Handcock'. Yup, he's a wanker alright.

the80sweregreat · 10/06/2021 14:46

I know my own dad had dementia and was elderly, but him and many many others ( including the staff ) deserve so much better than what will be a whitewash , no doubt.
It is so sad.

FrankDarko · 10/06/2021 14:47

@DrManhattan - thank you

PotassiumChloride · 10/06/2021 14:51

Hancock is the fall guy, that’s why he’s still in a job.

I agree, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with just admitting you make a mistake sometimes - everyone makes them, it doesn’t make you evil, nor does it mean you did it deliberately.

Emilyontmoor · 10/06/2021 15:10

the80s My FIL died at 90 of dementia in a care home before the pandemic hit. I would not have deprived him of the year he spent there with the staff that gave him the best quality of life and the happy crew on his corridor, and all the good memories we made there. I often think of what became of his crew, and the old ladies my daughter shared an orthopaedic ward with before the pandemic. Being old does not make your life and all the love you share with family and friends dispensable.

MissyB1 · 10/06/2021 15:16

Don’t forget when they deliberately downgraded the type of disease that Covid was in order to downgrade the type of PPE that healthcare staff would need Angry

Hence Dh was working on the Covid wards in plastic pinny and paper mask. When you watched reports from Covid wards abroad staff were wearing much better protection.

Still many people will forget and will only remember Boris & Co as being absolute heros. They will take all credit for the vaccination program (delivered by the NHS).

Emilyontmoor · 10/06/2021 15:23

I agree, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with just admitting you make a mistake sometimes - everyone makes them, it doesn’t make you evil, nor does it mean you did it deliberately. I would agree if it was just incompetence but failing to even try to learn the lessons because you are putting libertarian and free market ideology ahead of science and the existing public health strategies, and the blatant croneyism, I do think that is deliberate and evil.

DuncinToffee · 10/06/2021 15:49

A thread by Lewis Goodall from 17 April 2020 twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1251199137187577857?s=19

On Matt Hancock repeating "we never had a national outage of PPE"

Yet on 17th April govt felt the need to issue guidance which said PPE could be reused: "Compromise is needed to optimise supply in times of extreme shortages."

Also said lab coats could be used if gowns ran out.

MissyB1 · 10/06/2021 16:06

I wonder if most of the public will care about any of this when it comes to the next election? No I don’t suppose they will Angry

Woweelibfree · 11/06/2021 14:03

Utterly depressing

newnortherner111 · 11/06/2021 14:07

He is and was out of his depth. He was overruled on a number of occasions I expect, because of the Prime Minister dithering in part.

The Prime Minister is the one who should be in a criminal court. I have said before that the only reason Mr Johnson should not hang for the deaths he has caused is my opposition to the death penalty.

Thamigumathacharaid · 11/06/2021 15:30

I don't feel sorry for him. I still haven't forgiven him for removing our teaching bursary back in 2012. Bastard.

trappedsincesundaymorn · 11/06/2021 16:01

When mum went to visit her oncologist on 15th March last year he apologised for not wearing PPE but explained that there was not enough for everyone and what they did have was for ITU use only. He gave her the news that her cancer had gone. 4 weeks later we were arranging her funeral service as she had contracted, and died of, covid. Had PPE been available to that oncologist and the nurse that mum hugged after receiving the news mum may have been spared.
Until there is a public apology for their incompetence , then Wankcock, along with the rest of them can drown in the pools of Hell as far as I am concerned.

MouseyTheVampireSlayer · 11/06/2021 16:42

@trappedsincesundaymornFlowers

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DuncinToffee · 11/06/2021 16:52

trappedsincesundaymorn heartbreaking Flowers

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