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To think that dogs in the past were well 'ard compared to dogs now?

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Antiqueanniesmagiclanternshow · 08/06/2021 10:35

Dogs of yore...didn't wear coats, ran around unsupervised a lot, ate crap they found on the street, chewed on bones, had fights, did white dog poo.

Nowadays i am also seeing friends having to take their dog to the emergency vet because they ate a bit of chocolate, dogs in fluffy jumpers etc

Is it because many more dogs were mongrels and so they were just tougher? Or or is there another reason dogs seem much wussier these days?

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Quickchangeartiste · 08/06/2021 11:51

The dog I grew up with was very much a mongrel, intact, ate butchers scraps, shagged everything, roamed as he pleased, crapped wherever.. Lived to mid teens.
He was a bugger. Don’t think we need to go back to that.

the80sweregreat · 08/06/2021 12:17

@Quickchangeartiste

The dog I grew up with was very much a mongrel, intact, ate butchers scraps, shagged everything, roamed as he pleased, crapped wherever.. Lived to mid teens. He was a bugger. Don’t think we need to go back to that.
😀 The olden day dogs! They were hard as nails. Not like today's ' snowflake ' mash up dogs ( that cost thousands) who run away from trouble and need the right coat on in winter!
Aprilwasverywet · 08/06/2021 12:21

Back in my day ddog was never on a lead. Walked next to me. Ate a Kitkat every day given by the post mistress at the local PO..
Played in my paddling pool with me. Slept on my bed. Kissed me on the lips whenever I asked for a kiss!!
Never had coughs /colds /bugs.
She was allowed free range on our small estate if I was playing out. She gave birth to 6 black puppies one day. Looked suspiciously like my bff's black lab!!
Grin

MissyB1 · 08/06/2021 12:22

Oh hang on a minute, what about Tricky Woo?! 🤣

isthismylifenow · 08/06/2021 12:24

@Quickchangeartiste

The dog I grew up with was very much a mongrel, intact, ate butchers scraps, shagged everything, roamed as he pleased, crapped wherever.. Lived to mid teens. He was a bugger. Don’t think we need to go back to that.
Dogs can be well trained but also not completely pampered.

I think your dog growing up was a real free spirit... or untrained.

My neighbours dog is quite a free spirit. He is intact too so I don't know if that has something to do with it. Luckily we are quite a good community and someone will post on the group, hey number 9, your dog is at my house if you are looking for him. He is small so can squeeze in most gates. He pops in every day, says hello to my two dogs, has a shit, then leaves.

Antiqueanniesmagiclanternshow · 08/06/2021 12:27

In the Mary poppins books, Andrew gets laughed at by the other dogs because his owner fusses over him and makes him wear a coat😁

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Tossblanket · 08/06/2021 12:37

Yes because of flimsy owners treating them like children.

Fur babies and all that run free across the rainbow bridge shit makes me want to puke.

We have two large breed dogs that live outside in a stable, they don't come into the house ever.
Perfectly happy, healthy, well trained and looked after.

tabulahrasa · 08/06/2021 12:46

It’s because of a whole load of complicated reasons...

Dog ownership rises, which means more owners with no dog experience.

Different lifestyles - you’re going to get more behavioural issues when dogs are left while their owners work.

Better knowledge about what is responsible ownership.

With things like chocolate - it’s always been poisonous, but it’s only fairly recently that it was something that just hung about your house constantly.

Advances in medical care mean more things can be treated.

And people were much quicker to have dogs killed for behavioural issues, now they try and resolve them.

JesusInTheCabbageVan · 08/06/2021 12:47

@TheQueef

Does Greece still have free range dogs? Sorry for the random segue but it was one of the best things there for me. The dogs weren't strays just outside in friendly packs Smile
We went to Dalyan in Turkey a couple of years back and there were lots of dogs like that there - living the life of Riley!
WhatdoImean · 08/06/2021 12:48

First off, dogs these days break down into two major camps - working breed (collies, gun dogs etc.) who are bred to work and are only really happy doing it, and "companion" breeds, who are kept as pets to provide companionship.

If you have working lines dog, and do not keep it active and engaged (mentally as well as physically) you WILL get "problems" - though the issue is not with the dog, it is with the owner stopping it from BEING a dog as it has been bred to do (terriers will frequently want to dig and kill small stuff, collies will want to herd stuff, etc.). Stopping them from doing this will cause distress and "bad" behaviours (i.e. the dog gets frustrated normally) from the dog.

Companion dogs are almost a breed apart - the work ethic of a working lines Lab Vs a companion line (or shudder a "show line") Lab is dramatic and very visible. They are bred as canine "friends" first, and often for looks than for capability (thus the impact of line breeding, or major single source stud dogs, in the genetic makeup of the more popular breeds makes them a lot less robust)

The reason for the pet insurance is driven a lot by the companion breeds - if you have a "canine friend" (and let's be honest, dogs can be incredibly good at getting inside your emotions), you want to do all you can to look after them. There is SO much you can do these days that you could not do "in the old days" - pet MRIs for example, ongoing treatments where previously you would have the dog euthanized, etc. However, it takes money to do this, and thus pet insurance. Mind you - it is an incredibly good view of what the US health market looks like... ;-)

Overall - a) technology has improved, so you can DO a lot more, thus the need for insurance and b) the rise of companion dogs/lines as opposed to working lines, means how we treat (and what we expect from dogs) has changed quite a bit.

Flaunch · 08/06/2021 12:52

People don’t allow their dogs to be dogs nowadays. Ive recently got a new puppy following a ten year break from dogs and it’s as if people have gone completely neurotic in that time.

shetlandponies · 08/06/2021 12:55

@Antiqueanniesmagiclanternshow

Dogs of yore...didn't wear coats, ran around unsupervised a lot, ate crap they found on the street, chewed on bones, had fights, did white dog poo.

Nowadays i am also seeing friends having to take their dog to the emergency vet because they ate a bit of chocolate, dogs in fluffy jumpers etc

Is it because many more dogs were mongrels and so they were just tougher? Or or is there another reason dogs seem much wussier these days?

White dog poo really made me laugh, such an 80s thing to see around

Also lol at the fact they did white dog poos was an element of how much harder dogs of yore were 🤣

Totally agree with your post can't abide how dogs are fur babies and mollycoddled these days. and best not get me started on designer dogs 🤦🏻‍♀️😤

TheQueef · 08/06/2021 12:57

I was in Thessaloniki JitCV and travelled to Volos over a couple of weeks (work) and the dogs were the highlight.
Cutting around in big packs, going in the deli, waiting at pedestrian crossings and group sunbathing at monuments. All disappeared home in the evenings, it was ace just like 1975 Grin

JesusInTheCabbageVan · 08/06/2021 12:58

@Jubilate

I think dog ownership has become fetishised in the same way 'parenting' was before it. It's all kongs and doggy daycare.
Nothing wrong with kongs or doggy daycare Confused Fine to scoff at frilly costumes and photo shoots (or whatever), but meeting your dog's needs for mental stimulation and social interaction is just part of responsible pet ownership.
2bazookas · 08/06/2021 12:58

Dogs are no different. Their human owners are.

BITGOD, dogs were not used and abused the owner's social status symbol or fashion accessory.

JesusInTheCabbageVan · 08/06/2021 13:02

@TheQueef

I was in Thessaloniki JitCV and travelled to Volos over a couple of weeks (work) and the dogs were the highlight. Cutting around in big packs, going in the deli, waiting at pedestrian crossings and group sunbathing at monuments. All disappeared home in the evenings, it was ace just like 1975 Grin
Lovely Grin I remember one pair in Dalyan who were clearly expert at hanging round the food shops and guilt tripping tourists. Both decidedly rotund (and yes, we fell for it).
shetlandponies · 08/06/2021 13:09

@Quickchangeartiste

The dog I grew up with was very much a mongrel, intact, ate butchers scraps, shagged everything, roamed as he pleased, crapped wherever.. Lived to mid teens. He was a bugger. Don’t think we need to go back to that.
Sounds like my dog when I was growing up 🤣 he was a right little fucker character
shetlandponies · 08/06/2021 13:12

Someone mentioned Kongs and just reminded me. I used to be a cleaner and once found one laying around in someone's living room and genuinely thought it was some kind of a butt plug. Took a pic of it and sent it to my mate saying omg can't believe clients have left this around and she explained 🤣🤣

Strokethefurrywall · 08/06/2021 13:13

I agree OP. I have dogs, not fur babies. They don’t get up on couches, they don’t sleep in the beds, they don’t live outside because we don’t have a yard, but if they did they would have had a kennel and be able to do as they please.

The happiest dogs I know are actually the street dogs here (Caribbean), who have owners but sleep outside and hang out with their crew. They chase iguanas, chickens, entertain themselves.

FYI I’m not talking about dogs who are chained up outside and treated cruelly but there’s a massive gulf in between having a dog that lives in someone’s purse and a dog chained to a tree.

We do our dogs a disservice by treating them like 4 legged humans. Ultimately dogs are happy with companionship, food, exercise and kindness.

DartmoorChef · 08/06/2021 13:15

My dog has the raw food diet which includes a lot of bones so he does a fair bit of white poo .. he doesn't wear a coat but he is quite a spoilt mongrel .. currently soaking up the sun on what was once my flowerbed until he arrived HmmGrin

To think that dogs in the past were well 'ard compared to dogs now?
randomkey123 · 08/06/2021 13:17

Mine are pampered if it means they're fed well, clipped (by me), and taken to the vet if poorly (last week was an ear infection). But they sleep in the kitchen, roll in shit at every opportunity and very much behave like spaniels are meant to.

But I must admit that I roll my eyes at some of the "something-a-poo" dogs in the village all dressed in their coats over the winter.

JesusInTheCabbageVan · 08/06/2021 13:19

@Quickchangeartiste

The dog I grew up with was very much a mongrel, intact, ate butchers scraps, shagged everything, roamed as he pleased, crapped wherever.. Lived to mid teens. He was a bugger. Don’t think we need to go back to that.
Absolutely.

Dogs back then were more often physically punished, sometimes severely. My neighbour's dog was always walked on a choke chain, and I saw other dogs being beaten with leads etc.
Dogs were fed unsuitable food, and sometimes died or developed health complications.
Many dogs in my village were literally never walked.
Most people left dogs alone all day, and the ones who developed behavioural issues 'went to live on a farm', like my friend's dog, who he loved.
Another friend's dog (beautiful rough collie) died after her father kicked it to death for begging at the table.
Dogs chasing sheep was seen as just one of those things.
And of course there was dog shit everywhere.

Some dogs were healthier and happier. Many others weren't. Swings and roundabouts.

RincewindsHat · 08/06/2021 13:21

@MissyB1

Oh hang on a minute, what about Tricky Woo?! 🤣
Ah, Mrs Pumphrey...
shetlandponies · 08/06/2021 13:21

@DartmoorChef

My dog has the raw food diet which includes a lot of bones so he does a fair bit of white poo .. he doesn't wear a coat but he is quite a spoilt mongrel .. currently soaking up the sun on what was once my flowerbed until he arrived HmmGrin
He is lovely 😍
80sMum · 08/06/2021 13:30

In the UK, dogs are viewed very differently from how they are in other countries. In other countries, dogs are not considered to be part of the family in the same way as they are here, so they don't go everywhere with their owners, don't go to doggy daycare and don't get walked by a professional dog-walker. Dogs are usually either tied up outside their houses or shut in their gardens behind a gate. They are guarding the property whilst the owners are out of the house. That's their role, it seems.

DH and I have often commented on the fact that when we are out walking on footpaths in Spain, Italy, Canary Islands etc, we very, very rarely see anyone out walking a dog. I think in the past 10 years I can only recall one occasion, when we met a man walking with a dog.

Dogs in the UK are treated as if they were human. And that causes lots of problems, imo. Many dogs are unruly and untrained and don't take any notice of their owners. Such dogs can be a menace to anyone who just wants to go for a walk without being pestered by dogs!