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What to do re: this job offer?

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loopsylala · 06/06/2021 07:44

I am currently working a full time FTC that will end in November. We are all WFH at the moment so although its not a WFH job, its unlikely I will be in the office before then.

I want a permanent WFH position as I'm disabled.

I saw the perfect job for me that I could do with my eyes shut yet it asks for a lot of UK travel. I contacted them anyway and asked if there was any way it could be done remotely (no harm in asking I thought, and as its very similar to what I already do, it absolutely could be done remotely)

They responded saying that they looked at my linkedin and were really impressed so please still apply.

They said that they would consider that option full time, or perhaps job share if I were open to job share. I said yes because my thinking was, I will need another job after November and perhaps I could do something alongside it, a second job, to increase the income.

Well the offer has come in and the salary is almost half what I am currently on in my FTC and the hours are to be spread across the week, not fixed.

This salary is too low and if I won't know my hours from week to week, then I can't take on a second job. I've also seen their policy that seems to say no second jobs without permission.

What do I respond to the offer? DH reckons to turn it down and keep looking for something better, but the job itself sounds really good and I wanted to keep WFH. Its just the money is pretty crap. £16k when I am on £30,000 in my FTC.

Any ideas as to responses? WIBU to turn it down?

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maddening · 06/06/2021 08:44

Turn it down as it is not workable as a part time role, it gives you no scope for a second job.

WalkingOnTheCracks · 06/06/2021 08:50

They haven't actually said how many hours it would be per week

So, they haven't told you how much work you'll have to do, but they have told you what they'll pay you for it?

The whole offer sounds very unprofessional and ill-considered. I don't think I'd want to work for a company this poorly-run.

JeanClaudeVanDammit · 06/06/2021 08:55

I would respond saying that you’d need a fixed working pattern and to be able to take on a second job for the days when you’re not working for them.
If they can’t offer that then it’s not what you need and you should keep looking. There will be other opportunities.

loopsylala · 06/06/2021 09:12

@JeanClaudeVanDammit I'm not sure if I should word it that way? Although I would like to know more about any second job clauses.

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ThatOtherPoster · 06/06/2021 09:18

They said that they would consider that option full time, or perhaps job share if I were open to job share.

If you don’t like the job share package, why not ask them if they’d still consider you for a full time contract, and see what they’d offer you for that. You don’t really want a job share, do you, as you’ll have to get a second job too.

Namechangedandoverwhelmed · 06/06/2021 09:23

I think it’s reasonable to let them know you need to be able to work a second job OP. It is part time, after all. As things stand, the job isn’t right for you and you would need to turn it down, so you have nothing to lose by negotiating and seeing if they can fix the hours. They did say they would work round you, after all!

SandlakeRd · 06/06/2021 09:31

I think you can assume that as it is job share the hours are half of what the FT hours would be and that the salary reflects that and so is actually about what you asked for. You can confirm that with them though.

The more pressing issues are when you will work the hours, the actual job share arrangements - who does what etc and the second job clause. Many firms have a second job clause and it’s mostly not an issue. However if you intend getting a similar job for a competitor then it may well be.

You need to have an open conversation with them. If you would turn it down anyway then you have nothing to lose.

Peppapeg · 06/06/2021 09:49

[quote loopsylala]@JeanClaudeVanDammit I'm not sure if I should word it that way? Although I would like to know more about any second job clauses.[/quote]
Most places have them now, it absolutely doesn't mean they will not let you have one, it's just a safeguard for them.

For example, say you are a development manager for mcdonalds, meaning you have insight etc into new products, sales trends etc; if you also wanted to work for burger King doing the same job it's a conflict of interest, and they would reject it. Also if you had 5 other part time jobs, it would be reasonable to assume there might be an impact on your job with them, and therefore might reject. If though the job is not with a competitor etc they won't reject it.

sunshinepunch · 06/06/2021 11:41

Yes agree with others. Turn it. Its not right for you.

The right job will come along - see this as a 'my skills and experience are still wanted' and a confidence boost.

Unless you could go back and ask if your hours/days could be set thus allowing for the possibility for a second job. Sounds a bit taxing however and no guarantee a second job would have the 'spare' hours/days to fit.

VeganVeal · 06/06/2021 12:06

It really doesnt seem to meet your requirements on any level. It seems you just want a job because your contract ends in November and sort of see this one fitting the bill, but it doesnt. If you take it, it wont work, the expectation gap is too big on both sides

Spend your time and energy on finding something more suitable, you still have 5 months

MrsRockAndRoll · 06/06/2021 20:37

How could you commit to a second job if your hours change?

loopsylala · 07/06/2021 08:06

I hadn't even thought about that, surely if we agreed set days, they couldn't just then change it? But as I said, I've always worked FT before so that's never come up before.

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MinimumChips · 07/06/2021 08:21

So if they said they’d agree to 2.5 fixed days per week, you could get a second job and the salary was £17.5k (ie full time equivalent was £35k) would you accept? If so, go back to them and ask for that. They may say no, but they might say yes.

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