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This government still doesn't give a shit about schools or your kids

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noblegiraffe · 02/06/2021 19:00

I've posted before about this government's catalogue of failure when it comes to our children and schools and unfortunately it's still going on.

Sir Kevan Collins, the government- appointed schools catch-up tsar has just resigned over their complete failure to accept his recommendations and their pitiful offer of a programme worth only one tenth of what he said would be necessary to alleviate the impact of the pandemic on children's education. www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-57335558

Holland are spending £2500 per child for their catch-up programme, the US £1600. How much do you think the Tories value our children? It works out at £50 per head, and some of the proposed 1.4 billion is going on teacher training rather than tutoring initiatives so won't have an impact for years.

For the much vaunted national tutoring programme, have the government hired experts to provide this? No, according to Sam Freedman, former education advisor to Michael Gove "The DfE have also ballsed up the procurement of the National Tutoring Programme by scoring quality too low vs price so it's going to be run by a Dutch outsourcing firm called Randstad. They undercut all the orgs who actually understanding tutoring. So a lot of the high quality UK charities and organisations providing support to the tutoring programme will now likely pull out. Proper shitshow."

At the same time they have been cladding new and refurbished schools in Grenfell-style cladding www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/may/30/dozens-of-new-school-buildings-in-england-have-combustible-insulation, and have rejected calls from fire safety experts to install sprinklers in new school buildings. www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-57335558

In January, Johnson unexpectedly announced the cancellation of exams for Y11 and Y13. There was no plan for what would replace them and the buck was passed to Ofqual. By March, Ofqual admitted that they had no idea what to do, and so it fell to teachers and individual schools to set, mark and grade GCSEs and A-levels - tasks normally done by exam boards who are still charging exam entry fees this year for doing what appears to be very little. Scotland is paying teachers £400 each for this extra work, England is, of course, paying nothing. Parents are reportedly already gearing up to appeal teacher assessed grades while the government dodges the blame for the impending fiasco.

As I have posted about before, the government have cut Pupil Premium funding by millions, so in practical terms the most disadvantaged children now receive less per pupil than in previous years when there wasn't a pandemic. www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/4227538-See-how-much-the-government-has-just-cut-free-school-meal-funding-by-in-your-area

And on top of everything else...GAVIN WILLIAMSON IS STILL ED SEC. It's inexplicable, he is widely regarded as completely useless and yet while others involved in education resign around him, he gets to keep his job.

YABU: This government really cares about education and children

YANBU: This government do not give a shit. Not just incompetence, they really don't care.

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canary1 · 02/06/2021 23:07

It’s absolutely disgraceful, could not agree with you more.

ChloeDecker · 02/06/2021 23:08

Watch Gav and the DfE blame schools for the shit show of their own creation

And then watch them stand back and let the schools deal with and fund the parental lawsuits come their way. Again.

StaffRepFeistyClub · 02/06/2021 23:15

And it wasnt Gav or the DfE fighting for free school meals it was Marcus Rashford!

StaffRepFeistyClub · 02/06/2021 23:17

And wasnt it DfE types who were getting a £1k bonus to sort out PPE deliveries to schools by the start of term - the little loves had to work over the Christmas break (oophs another fail)

MrsHamlet · 02/06/2021 23:18

It's much less important how many are recruited to train than how many complete. And that's less important than how many actually get jobs teaching after that. The drop out rate is dreadful.

noblegiraffe · 02/06/2021 23:18

Maths recruitment only reached 64% of the target in 2019 - 84% this time.

Yes, the Tories have repeatedly failed to meet maths recruitment targets for years.

If we want kids to catch up missed learning, then they need suitably qualified and experienced teachers. What is the government doing to retain the current workforce? Nothing.

What are they doing to deliberately antagonise them? To worsen their working conditions? Plenty.

Not a good tactic when it comes to the education of children.

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StaffRepFeistyClub · 02/06/2021 23:18

And as for the laptops debacle ......

Houseofvelour · 02/06/2021 23:20

They're a bunch of cunts.

Clavinova · 02/06/2021 23:25

And as for the laptops debacle ......

World shortage of low cost laptops - United States here;

www.axios.com/coronavirus-education-laptop-shortage-f5990485-6277-4f4e-a37c-ec7f77d68241.html

JackieWeaverHandforthCouncil · 02/06/2021 23:26

Dumbing down the children of the masses works for them.

Their own kids will be well educated.

JackieWeaverHandforthCouncil · 02/06/2021 23:27

Meanwhile how much has Dido spunked on track and trace? £35bn? Duff PPE?

noblegiraffe · 02/06/2021 23:28

World shortage of low cost laptops

Nonsense. The Daily Mail stepped in and sorted laptops for disadvantaged kids because even the Daily Mail realised that the government effort was a shitshow.

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Myothercarisalsoshit · 02/06/2021 23:30

[quote Clavinova]And as for the laptops debacle ......

World shortage of low cost laptops - United States here;

www.axios.com/coronavirus-education-laptop-shortage-f5990485-6277-4f4e-a37c-ec7f77d68241.html[/quote]
Jesus. Scraping the barrel there. Thanks for the thread @noblegiraffe

Clavinova · 02/06/2021 23:40

Meanwhile how much has Dido spunked on track and trace? £35bn?

FullFact article here -

fullfact.org/health/test-trace-march-2021/

TotorosCatBus · 02/06/2021 23:41

@noblegiraffe

World shortage of low cost laptops

Nonsense. The Daily Mail stepped in and sorted laptops for disadvantaged kids because even the Daily Mail realised that the government effort was a shitshow.

I saw some other red tops like The Sun and The Mirror advertising collection of books and homeschooling supplies on the front covers of their mags too.

No acknowledgement of the plight of university students either. Often forgotten in speeches and no policy.

Bracing myself for another exam debacle next summer. 😔

TotorosCatBus · 02/06/2021 23:41

What's happened to all the ppe that's not good enough for use as ppe?

StaffRepFeistyClub · 02/06/2021 23:53

school budgets are all about robbing Peter to pay Paul.

I am surprised that the DfE didn't make the schools pay for the £1k bonuses their staff had ... or maybe they have

StaffRepFeistyClub · 02/06/2021 23:57

oh and the chaos behind Chartwells free school meal offering.

Gav and the DfE were saved by Marcus and an army of food outlets that helped. No evidence of the DfE supporting disadvantaged students there.

All of them need to be re-trained. I don't think they actually care about the child at the end of the line.

StaffRepFeistyClub · 02/06/2021 23:58

@TotorosCatBus

What's happened to all the ppe that's not good enough for use as ppe?
its all in storage somewhere and is costing the tax payer a fortune
StaffRepFeistyClub · 03/06/2021 00:00

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/11/22/government-paying-1m-day-store-mountain-ppe-nhs-staff-still/

Was costing £1m a day for PPE storage in Nov 2020 - hope it has gone down a little bit

Viciouslybashed · 03/06/2021 00:03

@StaffRepFeistyClub

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/11/22/government-paying-1m-day-store-mountain-ppe-nhs-staff-still/

Was costing £1m a day for PPE storage in Nov 2020 - hope it has gone down a little bit

That's managed to actually shock me. God. The waste and mismanagement is astounding.
noblegiraffe · 03/06/2021 00:05

No acknowledgement of the plight of university students either.

Oh god they have been treated dreadfully. The rent, the tuition fees, the infection rates after being told to travel cross country, the quarantining, the lack of clarity on face-to-face tuition. A whole other thread.

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sammyvine · 03/06/2021 00:19

UK keeps voting in the Conservatives

Are most of the UK rich? Why do they keep winning elections? Why not give the liberal democrats a chance if you dislike Labour?
I mean Labour haven't been in power since 2010, its been 11 year Conservative government so why do they keep getting re-elected?

JackieWeaverHandforthCouncil · 03/06/2021 03:15

A fair chunk of those complaining on here will vote Tory at the next election and will claim they ‘had’ to because of Corbyn even though he won’t be on anyone’s ballot paper.

By then. Sunak will be installed as PM and can lay the blame for shifty schools on the Johnson administration even though he is the Chancellor who refused to fully fund this scheme. Many on here love ‘Dishi Rishi’ and will vote for him when promised to through lots of money at things he massively defunded previously.

He’s married to a billionaire and doesn’t give a fuck about our children. Dumb children are also more likely to fall for three word meaningless slogans too. It’s a win win, dumb down the kids with cheap education then they will vote for populist bullshit.

JackieWeaverHandforthCouncil · 03/06/2021 03:15

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