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Help with training adult cats to toilet outside please!

131 replies

ShutUpAlex · 30/05/2021 09:10

My SIL has gone away for the week, she’s pregnant and when she gets back my brother is going to be working long, 12 hour shifts.
She wants the litter tarts gone as she can’t deal with them being pregnant and after 12 hours they absolutely stink. My cats were trained to go outside but we did this from when they were kittens, brothers cats are 3+.
I said I’d help him over the next week. He is useless, probably should t have the cats in the first place but he is too soft and has taken them all in off other people. 6 cats altogether.

Does anyone have experience with this?

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BigFatPasty · 31/05/2021 15:18

Yay, so more cats can shit in other people’s gardens. I am so SICK of cats using our garden as a toilet so my crawling baby is at risk of picking something up.

Cats should go in a Litter tray.

ShutUpAlex · 31/05/2021 15:19

@BigFatPasty if you actually read the thread you’ll see they are using litter trays. Just the litter trays are no outside instead of inside.

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BigFatPasty · 31/05/2021 15:22

@ShutUpAlex so all your cats only go in litter trays outside? Sorry, I don’t buy it.

ShutUpAlex · 31/05/2021 15:26

Also not my cats. Read the thread.

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somewheresorted · 31/05/2021 15:33

Yes cats should go in a litter tray. I have 3 cats who all trot back in from outside to use the litter tray and I’m pleased that they do - I don’t want them using my neighbours gardens as toilets.

BigFatPasty · 31/05/2021 15:36

@ShutUpAlex I was referring to YOUR cats, the cats YOU referenced? I have rtft thanks, but by all means keep saying that rather than making an actual point.

MissMaple82 · 31/05/2021 15:37

Everyone saying the litter trays shouldn't smell.. have you forgotten what smells are like when pregnant!!!?? Everything is heightened, not to mention pregnant women shouldn't be dealing with cat poo

BigFatPasty · 31/05/2021 15:38

@ShutUpAlex for example here: I honestly don’t know anyone other than by brother who has litter trays for adult cats. what this mean is “my cats shit all over the place including in other people’s gardens and I think that’s fine no matter their situation”

Neilsfavouritechilli · 31/05/2021 15:39

We have a new deep, none lidded litter tray and Cats Best clumping wood litter (I asked for advice in the Litter Tray section on here after struggling with manky cat smells). Easy to deal with and genuinely no issue with smell since. They do use our garden too when it's nice out but they like the solitude of their own trays sometimes. Our old set up used to honk despite regular emptying and cleaning. Now I don't gip when cleaning the tray out.

ShutUpAlex · 31/05/2021 15:41

Yawn. I have no neighbours I live in the middle of a load of fields. Not relevant to the thread.

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BigFatPasty · 31/05/2021 15:45

@ShutUpAlex obviously that’s a lie, and does your brother magically live on the middle of fields too?

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BigFatPasty · 31/05/2021 15:51

I have the read the thread, but I just don’t believe that you and your brother both live near fields and you have no neighbours and your brother ha only cat-owning neighbours. It’s all very convenient to admonish responsibility on your part and the fact that there and children out there who can’t play safely in their own gardens because you don’t want to have to deal with cat shit. If my dog shit in your garden or outside your house you’d kick right off, yet you expect everybody else to happily put up with your damn cat shit. It’s so selfish.

ShutUpAlex · 31/05/2021 15:56

We live in cornwall. Most people are surrounded by fields. We don’t all live in cities you know.

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drspouse · 31/05/2021 15:58

Cat poo stinks the second it comes out IME of two cats, both healthy, on occasions we've had to have the litter tray near the dining room temporarily. A wide variety of cat litter.
Old cat went outside, tried to use my flower beds (and the large indoor plant pot), we put netting over them. New cat ditto, just put some netting over my plug plants. Plenty of alley and waste ground for them to use that isn't my garden. We all have mainly paved yards anyway.

BigFatPasty · 31/05/2021 15:59

Check my name, I live in Cornwall too. And not in Truro. And I still don’t believe you.

TheDiddlyGang · 31/05/2021 16:00

My cats are trained. They don’t jump on surfaces, they know which rooms they’re allowed in which ones they aren’t, they know not to steal food off of peoples plates
🤣
You just got lucky with submissive cats!
It’s nothing to do with your ‘training’ skills.

DH had a cat exactly like yours, none of the subsequent cats have been anywhere close to well mannered.

In fact, I would say DHs old cat and your cats are the exception, not the rule.

Most cats are arrogant dicks and won’t refrain from doing things just because you don’t want them to!

I also agree with the PPs about inflicting 6 cats on neighbours.
Your brother should catproof his garden, you said yourself one cat turd stinks out the whole house.
It’s incredibly selfish to let 6 out to shit all over the neighbours gardens.

ShutUpAlex · 31/05/2021 16:01

Well that’s not my problem. You’re not adding anything useful the thread are you. Just a load of irrelevant nonsense.

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tabulahrasa · 31/05/2021 16:02

Tbh if you don’t want litter trays in your house, I don’t think you should own cats.

What happens if they have issues with other cats? Or there are foxes about? What about if they get unwell or when they get old?

BigFatPasty · 31/05/2021 16:03

And you have no proper argument or answer here because you know it’s selfish and irresponsible but you won’t admit to that because this way you can keep spreading shit, disease and worms or worming medicine etc around people houses and the countryside.

But that’s fine, you keep doing that and telling yourself it’s fine because your specially trained cats never effect anyone else. Have a lovely day.

ShutUpAlex · 31/05/2021 16:05

And you dude, sounds like you could do with one!

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Kotatsu · 31/05/2021 16:11

I can smell boycat's poop from 3 rooms away the moment he does it, in a fairly enclosed litter tray! So 6 cats poo after 12 hours must be terrible!

Having said that, my cats, despite being indoor cats for their first year (lived in town) immediately found some favourite spots around the edge of the garden when we moved rurally (although only really in summer, they're not a fan of cold or rainy pooing). They started pooing under leylandii where it was fairly dusty/dry, then moved onto the ditch around the garden once they were regular out-door poopers.

Kotatsu · 31/05/2021 16:14

I'll also say, that whilst I'm not in Cornwall, everyone of my neighbours has at least one cat (it's the country side, they're easy pest control) and I have fields on two sides of the garden.

We do keep a couple of litter trays (2 cats), but they barely need any attention in summer (and even then it's generally just wee) because it rains a lot, and as I mentioned, they can be reluctant to leave the house when it is!

cupsofcoffee · 31/05/2021 16:23

I can smell boycat's poop from 3 rooms away the moment he does it, in a fairly enclosed litter tray! So 6 cats poo after 12 hours must be terrible!

But the thing is, OP's SIL doesn't have to leave them for 12 hours - she's choosing to. Her being pregnant shouldn't stop her changing the litter trays - she can wear gloves, use a scoop and wash her hands afterwards if she's really worried about toxoplasmosis, but the risk is minimal as long as your practice good hygiene.

If you choose to live in a household with six cats, you need to take some responsibility for them. We have four animals and although they're "mine", DH still cleans the trays if he gets up first, feeds them in the mornings etc. He wouldn't leave a litter tray full of shit for me to deal with to just try and make a point.

Maryofscots · 31/05/2021 16:32

@ShutUpAlex

From what I’ve seen, only 3 of them are using the trays, but the smell is bad. It’s the first thing you notice when you walk in. She’s too embarrassed to invite people round and is worried about when the baby arrives and starts crawling etc. I honestly don’t know anyone other than by brother who has litter trays for adult cats. They’re long haired cats too so despite all the different mats she’s tried they drag the litter all over the house too. They are a nightmare, my brother has done no training what so ever. They’re all over the sides, they fight all the time. SIL had to get one of the neutered as brother hadn’t bothered to do it and it was spraying on her stuff when she moved in. I do really deal for her!
Sorry but why should their neighbour's crawling baby or toddler find cat poo in their garden?!!! You brother and sil are being selfish here!
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