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I have no idea if I am anymore?!

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Wolfie11 · 30/05/2021 08:35

DP and I have been together for 5 years. There is so much background information relating to our relationship but I’d be here all day trying to explain it. It hasn’t always been an easy relationship, I’m far from perfect but he can be a difficult person. I have always been the one making sacrifices and putting in a lot of the effort. We don’t live together and never have, he doesn’t have any contact with my child and hasn’t since the first year, when he lived close by he would never ever come to my house, I always went to his etc - just a few examples but all of these are because this is what he wanted, not me. I did voice my issues at the time with the above but it got me absolutely nowhere so I’ve stopped. I accepted who he was (even though that person was very different the first year of our relationship!) and decided to stay with him based on that, not who I wanted him to be.

Fast forward to just over a year ago and he decided to move a long way away for a new job. He is very career driven and it would have been difficult for him to progress in the same way in the area that we lived in. He didn’t ask me to come with him. It broke my heart but I supported him (spent months decorating his new flat, packing for him, moving stuff down etc) and we decided to try and make it work long distance. Obviously COVID then struck and our original plan of travelling to each other once every fortnight became impossible for a while. I managed to visit him once every 4-6 weeks - he came to visit me once in the past year, combined with a visit to his parents. We still FaceTimed/called/text every day and although it was tremendously difficult for me with the travelling impact (financially, used all my annual leave, exhausting etc) we seemed to be making it work. He had been unable to travel to me as he was concerned that he would get into trouble with work, despite the restrictions changing to state that non-cohabiting couples could travel to each other, the fact that he believed COVID is a lot of nonsense and his work knew I was visiting him. Now that most restrictions have eased, we agreed to revert back to our original plan of every other weekend. This is his first weekend here after combining it with a visit to his parents. We are staying in his empty, unsold flat on mattresses on the floor because he didn’t want to stay in mine. I don’t live in a hovel btw, I’m much cleaner and tidier than him! I had to bring my hoover, professional dog dryer (newly decorated, cream carpets), towels, bedding, cutlery etc. All because he wants to stay here for no reason other than that’s what he wants.

We’ve been having a great time except for the fact that on Friday after a brilliant day out he told me in a pretty casual way that he’s not really sure if this will work. He realises that’s it’s very unfair that I’ve put in all of the effort for the past year but he doesn’t think that he will be able to put in the effort now. He’s very stressed with work etc. It turns out that he would be quite happy to continue with me doing all of the work, it’s just that he doesn’t think he will cope with doing his part. I offered to compromise and try and come up with a plan that would be easier for him but still not putting the whole load on me but he refused and basically said he can’t commit to anything at all. It was left (by him) that we would put a pin in it for the weekend, enjoy ourselves and he would decide when he goes home if we are splitting up or not. I nodded and agreed and went along with this but all of yesterday it became increasingly more difficult. Anytime I mentioned that we should do something in future (like “oh look, we should go there/do this one day”) I’d be met with stony silence and remember that we might not even be together this time next week. That this might be the last time we ever see each other and that he’s going to leave in a few days time and I’ll be left waiting. I told him last night that it’s really unfair to treat me like this and I think that he should come to a decision before he goes home and end it face to face if that’s what he wants. He felt like this was very unfair and that I was forcing him into a decision, he wants to think about it when he’s alone. Okay, I get that, that’s no problem but I asked that when he leaves he lets me know when he’s home safely and then doesn’t contact me until he knows what he wants to do. No FaceTime or sending nice texts or sexy/dirty stuff. I said that I felt like I deserve a lot better than what he was offering and that I wasn’t willing to just carry on as normal as if everything is okay. I also said that I can’t guarantee I will ‘wait for him’ indefinitely. I might make my own decision in the meantime. He went off on one, said it was too late to discuss this, he wasn’t doing it right now, I was making him so angry, do I just say things to hurt his feelings etc. I’ve been left feeling like I’m completely wrong and that I shouldn’t have said anything. I should have pretended that everything was okay until he decided otherwise.

If he doesn’t want to be with me anymore, that’s fine. I would be heartbroken and gutted but I would accept it and walk away. I get how difficult it is, I’m still willing to do it anyway but I understand if he doesn’t want to or can’t. It would feel like I’ve been taken for a mug for the past year considering I was the one wary of doing this in the first place but I wouldn’t tell him that. I just don’t understand how he can think it’s okay to dangle it in front of me like maybe we’ll stay together, maybe we won’t and he’ll be the decider of that and I won’t really know what’s going on until he decides. After his response last night and this mornings “I have nothing else to say at the moment” I feel like there is zero point in trying to discuss it, it feels like doing anything other than waiting for his decision makes me a bad person for not letting him figure it out on his own. Now though, a massive part of me just wants to end it myself. I don’t want to be with someone who can’t decide if they actually want to be with me.

AIBU for what I’ve said and for feeling like maybe I should just walk away?

OP posts:
BuffySummersReportingforSanity · 30/05/2021 10:30

How much clearer could he possibly be that he doesn't care about you, at all?

The fact that you'd even consider the decision of whether the relationship is over or not to be in his hands is really, really worrying.

PriestessofPing · 30/05/2021 10:30

Ah i’m sorry. It sounds like you’re a very giving person who is happy to sacrifice and compromise for people you care about. Unfortunately that seems to have morphed into you making ALL the effort. What are you really hoping for? That at some point he’ll return the favour? How has he left you not only travelling to him but it sounds like also bearing the financial cost - has he even helped with travel expenses? He has made it loud and clear he’s only interested in you showing up on his terms - and he even disrespects you for doing that it appears - acting grumpy and getting you to stay in an empty uncomfortable flat when there are other options.

The way he is treating you sounds dangerously close to contempt, not just disrespect. You deserve better than this. Flowers

tiredanddangerous · 30/05/2021 10:30

Wake up op. Block his number and move on with your life. Relationships aren't meant to be like this.

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 30/05/2021 10:32

Please don’t waste any more time on this non-relationship, OP. Your self-esteem is already in shreds, or you wouldn’t even consider letting him choose. Get this weight off your back and you’ll feel as if you’re flying!

LeafBeetle · 30/05/2021 10:34

OP you need to work on your self esteem. Why do you think your needs and hopes and wishes are so unimportant?

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 30/05/2021 10:34

Also, you don’t mention the effects on your DC, who is also being messed around, while learning terrible lessons from you and this man as role models.

PriestessofPing · 30/05/2021 10:37

He doesn’t sound like an idiot and that anger you’re getting off him is most likely guilt because he knows he’s been a selfish royal shit.

Unfortunately, with this sort of person - giving more and loving them more isn’t going to earn you their respect or consideration. They just ramp it up while treating you worse because they don’t respect you and every time you act like a pushover and ‘compromise’ (which isn’t really compromise it’s just pouring more into the black hole of their selfishness) they think even less of you.

I’m sorry. It’s really hard to change the image we internalise from an overall loving relationship that just has problems to realising that it really isn’t.

Bluedeblue · 30/05/2021 10:39

Blimey. Look, even if he did want to make this work, seeing a Partner once a fortnight does not a relationship make. Unless it's temporary, which this isn't.

He has made it very obvious that he won't be with you in the long term.

  1. Moves away from the area.
  2. After 5 years, he still hasn't met your kid(s)
  3. After 5 years you don't live together
  4. After 5 years, there's no talk of marriage
  5. He's told you to your face, that he doesn't think the relationship will work.
  6. He gets angry if you want to talk about this, or know wtf is going on.
  7. Won't commit to any future plans, like holidays.

You can't move forward in life like this. I'd let him leave on Sunday and then send him a text to say you've been thinking and you're going to make his life easier and end things now. Flowers

Bluntness100 · 30/05/2021 10:40

I’m also unsure what you’re doing here and why, you need to grab your dignity and end this and not wait around, accepting crumbs, waiting for the hammer to fall.

I’m sorry but you need to accept he’s not feeling it like you are. Stop chasing after him like this. Just take the decision and end it.

OldkermitSippingtea · 30/05/2021 10:41

Finished reading [painfully because it's still obvious]

Yanbu for wanting to walk away.

Yabu for even thinking to ask if yabu.
Yabu for considering his feelings when he hasn't considered yours.
Yabu for waiting to ask people for confirmation before you do what you know is right for you and what you deserve.

mamaoffourdc · 30/05/2021 10:42

I would of packed up my stuff immediately and left - blocked the number, grieve for the time wasted then pick myself back up and move in with my life!

ConkerBonkers · 30/05/2021 10:43

I think he's been telling you with his actions, since the first day that he isn't really in this thing. He sounds totally pathetic tbh. I'm sorry that he's strung you along for the ride like this

thecatfromjapan · 30/05/2021 10:44

I always wish, with posts like these, the OP could explain what is so utterly magic about these men.

You've been having a 'great time' in this empty flat, filled with things you schlepped over, sleeping in the floor. You had a 'brilliant' day out.

Is he a modern-day Voltaire? Dazzling in his insights, able to re-birth the world for you through the refraction of his words?

Is he an amazing lover, who can give you your body back, re-imagined through sexual pleasure?

Because you are working really, really hard for this person.

And there are other people in this world, who really could do the above - the amazing sharing of viewpoints, the re-igniting of world and body, whilst also putting your happiness and well-being front and forwards.

I think it's hard when you have a child. You probably started on this relationship because it required little effort. And you didn't have that much emotional commitment or time to spare.

Having someone who you could see occasionally, could lavish occasional bits of care on, spend bits of leisure time with, have sex with, without them demanding more was probably ideal.

Of course, if it had been a deep relationship, he would have demanded more of you.

You've masked the reality of it by doing stuff for him. And he took all that stuff.

It's past its point of usefulness for you now, though. It's unequal. You do too much, for too little in return.

You probably now have the time and emotional space for a real relationship.

Time to move on.

HoppingPavlova · 30/05/2021 10:45

You have been with this person for 5 years and consider them your partner. For 5 years they have refused to have contact with your son. Do I have this right? If that’s right, it’s incredibly fucked up that you think this is acceptable and I can’t get past that onto anything else you have written tbh.

lljkk · 30/05/2021 10:46

You deserve hugely better OP. There are so many other fish in the sea. End it.

felulageller · 30/05/2021 10:48

This isnt a relationship. You are his FWB.

EverythingRuined · 30/05/2021 10:49

There is something very odd about this 'relationship'. I don't understand why you would be so giving to him. It doesn't sound like he was stringing you along. Moving away without asking you was a clear indication of what he thought of you and yet you carried on being helpful and giving.
You need to split (obviously) and you should make sure it's permanent. Then you need to take a break from dating and work out what is important to you and your child.

Good luck OP. At least you didn't buy a house or have a kid with him and I bet you are glad you never introduced your kid to him.

IDontLikeMondays88 · 30/05/2021 10:49

Get rid ASAP

MrsExpo · 30/05/2021 10:49

OP, please just pack your things and walk out. This is going nowhere fast and you need to move on with your life.

Budapestdreams · 30/05/2021 10:50

Walk away, block him and move on with your life.

MustardRose · 30/05/2021 10:54

Just... why?

Why are you putting yourself through this effort for the crumbs he occasionally offers you? Just stop. He's awful, and a complete waste of time.

CynsterBitch · 30/05/2021 10:56

You deserve better, i don’t know why you are letting someone treat you like this but please, pack up your stuff and go home. Take some time to yourself and move on with your life when you feel ready, but try not to give this user any more of your time

PenguinIce · 30/05/2021 10:56

Op, you need to go home and block this bloke. The way he is treating you is disgusting and selfish. Would you want your dc to be treated like this my a partner in the future? If the answer is no, then why allow yourself to be treated like it!

Tillyscoutsmum · 30/05/2021 10:57

What are you doing?? This self absorbed man child is treating you appallingly. For the love of god, do NOT allow him to call all the shots and decide whether or not he's willing to allow you to continue running round after him for another 5 years. Seriously? What are you getting from this relationship? He's already ground down your self worth to zero by the sound of it. Get your stuff and go. Block him. Grieve. Go and find someone who actually wants a grown up relationship and thinks you're worthy of putting a little effort into

Beautiful3 · 30/05/2021 10:59

I'm sorry but I've voted you're being unreasonable, because you've let him treat you like a door mat. You've thrown your time, effort and money at him. He has not done anything for you. You're actually awaiting his decision to end it or continue?! He is dangling it over your head. Fuck that, you make your decision and tell him its over. Never contact him again. You are worth so much more than that, when one door closes, another will open. I wish you all the best. Flowers

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