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Struggling with 2 year old

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mag2305 · 23/05/2021 11:32

My son is 2 and a half and is the most loved, incredible little boy but he is testing us, especially at the moment. He's always been very switched on, like one step ahead but has never been easy and has always got very frustrated over things. He is very destructive around the house, for instance, he will throw over plant pots on purpose or take off drawer handles! He can be very hyperactive and apart from when he's asleep or maybe poorly, he just can't ever stay still. He's a runner (I wouldn't trust him walking near roads at all), he's a climber (climbs up kitchen units, cupboards, radiators) and still puts things he shouldn't in his mouth. If we play in the garden, he'll instanting go to the shrubs with berries on and try to put them in his mouth whilst looking at us.

We tell him no, a lot it feels like, but also praise him lots too. I don't believe in time out at this age so we don't do that but we do ignore which can work sometimes. He has tantrums a lot and fortunately they are short lived but are quite frequent. I'm finding him to be physically harder. He's tall for his age and when he kicks out, it's not fun!

Myself and my partner are both anxious, highly strung people and I wonder if my son is the way he is because of his genetics. It wouldn't surprise me if one day, someone suggests possible adhd. I'm a teacher and have taught a lot of children with challenging behaviour but have never thought anything of it. Now it's my own child, I feel out of my depth.

One thing I'm finding hard is taking my ds out with friends and their children. He is the wild, defiant one and the other seem so much more compliant. If I went to the beach with friends, I can guarantee that my ds will be the one to go straight into the sea fully clothed. He wouldn't be content with playing in the sand or paddling. It's almost like he's a toddler adrenaline junkie!! He always wants to take things to the next level.

I feel unfair saying all this as I do also love my ds's spirit, humour and individualality. He's a character! But it is exhausting and draining. Sometimes I feel like other toddlers are so much easier, then it's the whole, what am I doing wrong thing?!! Quite often I'll see parents and toddlers walking along by a road with the toddler free to walk without holding hands. Or just sitting on a chair with out being strapped in.

Does anyone else have a naturally wild, hazardous toddler? It feels like it's just us sometimes. Please share any experiences and stories. xx

P.s. I do also think that a year of on/off lockdown, and we had to sheild for a while, has made a difference to his behaviour too. Especially the destructive behaviour around our small house.

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Lovelanguedoc · 23/05/2021 21:45

It shouldn't actually matter that I am of an older generation. The point I'm making is that I have successfully brought up my own children, without having any of the issues that are currently causing you problems.
I am not being in the least judgemental, I am merely suggesting a strategy that is effective.
Evidently you don't wish to try it, but as I said, if you carry on as you are doing then don't be surprised if you have problems in the future.
Children need clear boundaries, they are happier and more secure than with parents who allow them to do as they please, without any effective consequences.

Abouttimemum · 23/05/2021 21:48

And quite honestly OP there’s not a parent of a toddler on earth that hasn’t had to deal with a public tantrum. All those calm toddlers you see walking along the street probably had a wobbler at some point that day. And if they didn’t they are exceptionally unusual!

user1493494961 · 23/05/2021 22:25

I don't think your spell check is on Op.

mag2305 · 23/05/2021 22:30

@user1493494961 sorry, what did I put? I was probably tying quick.

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mag2305 · 23/05/2021 22:30

See... Typing
Oh dear!

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mag2305 · 23/05/2021 22:52

@Briarshollow hysterical? I said we were anxious and highly strung as in our personality types. Like other people are more laid back types. Not sure why you would assume we get hysterical with our ds though?! That sounds a bit ott!

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mag2305 · 23/05/2021 23:10

@Lovelanguedoc you seem to have the idea that we let our ds get away with everything. That's not how it is. We use lots of positive reinforcement. When we say no, it's no. BUT it's not always that straight forward. Throw into the mix that this behaviour is all happening while I'm currently heavily pregnant, still being very careful with what we do in terms of the virus and have had to spend a huge part of the last year in a very small house. I'm sure many others parents will have had similar struggles. Circumstances are as they are.

Also, he is only 2 and a half. What do you mean by consequences?

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Tappetytap · 23/05/2021 23:12

Op I couldnt read and run. I smiled when I read your message (in a non judgey way) as your son sounds almost identical to my DC3. I have the advantage of perspective though as our first 2 children were relatively calm (this lulled me into a false sense of security-ha ha) Before DC3 I was the parent at the playgroup rolling my eyes at the parents who had the unruly kids (I am now completely humbled). We affectionately call DC3 the puppy. His energy levels are off the chart and no amount of activities seem to slow him down. We literally have to walk him twice a day or he becomes destructive. He never slept through the night for 3 years (up multiple times ready to start partying). We were/are consistent with boundaries and discipline but he is equally consistent in his will not to comply. He's 4 now and due to start school in September and is still full steam ahead and spends half his life doing headstands and seems to be fearless (I'm hoping age 5 is the magic number). It's a real lottery what type of personality you get with kids as I'm sure you know from being a teacher and perhaps teaching siblings. Despite all this though, he's wonderful and I'll truly miss him when he goes to school full time. He's incredibly loving and really kind, his latest motto is sharing is caring and he wants to give us half of everything. He gives the most amazing hugs (even if sometimes they are enthusiastic hugs and he nearly winds you in the process ha ha). As cliche as it sounds even though he's incredibly hard work, l wouldnt change a thing about him. You are doing an amazing job. Keep smiling (and get a nice coffee subscription).
One thing you might like to try is a scooter. This has been amazing as it seems to appeal to his sense of adventure, burns some energy and he surprisingly listens to instructions on it. Worth a try...

mag2305 · 23/05/2021 23:47

@Tappetytap thank you so much for posting your comment. I can totally relate to what you say. You're spot on with saying about being consistent with boundaries but your son also being consistent in not being willing to comply. I feel that's exactly where we're at. I'm not sure why other comments on this thread assumed we don't use discipline. We have definite boundaries but also pick our battles sometimes. However, when you have a very bright, lively, strong willed toddler (like a puppy), getting them to comply isn't easy. The funny thing is I'm actually early years trained and taught reception and year 1 for a long time. So I'm OK with that age group lol, it's this toddler bit I'm struggling with but we shall persevere and adapt as we go along with our ds.
Thank you again and I hope your son enjoys starting school in September.

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Briarshollow · 24/05/2021 06:55

[quote mag2305]@Briarshollow hysterical? I said we were anxious and highly strung as in our personality types. Like other people are more laid back types. Not sure why you would assume we get hysterical with our ds though?! That sounds a bit ott![/quote]
He probably finds it incredibly easy to get a near-hysterical reaction from you both and thinks that’s fun. Any attention, negative or otherwise is rewarding for kids.

This is what I actually said. I surmised from your description of yourselves that he might find it easy to get a big reaction from both of you and that was rewarding in itself. At massively pregnant and ‘anxious and highly strung’, this didn’t seem beyond the realms of possibility.

Also the ‘typo’ a PP was probably referring to was when you wrote comoradary when presumably what you meant was camaraderie.

1AngelicFruitCake · 24/05/2021 07:14

@Lovelanguedoc

It shouldn't actually matter that I am of an older generation. The point I'm making is that I have successfully brought up my own children, without having any of the issues that are currently causing you problems. I am not being in the least judgemental, I am merely suggesting a strategy that is effective. Evidently you don't wish to try it, but as I said, if you carry on as you are doing then don't be surprised if you have problems in the future. Children need clear boundaries, they are happier and more secure than with parents who allow them to do as they please, without any effective consequences.
I read that this poster was trying to offer you a differing point of view and I think the generation snd current teacher comments were a bit dismissive! It’s good to have other opinions and you asked for them! I read so many times on here (and experience in real life) mums saying my child is such a character, live wire etc and as you said ‘ahead’, insinuating he’s bright which he might be. However, don’t fool yourself into thinking he doesn’t need straightforward strategies sometimes and I agree being firm snd having consequences at this age is the way to go. ‘No’ whilst running into the sea will become background noise to Him but removing him from The beach (even temporarily) will help him learn if he’s still doing it. Work on this so when you’re out with others it isn’t embarrassing. Also sounds like you’re waiting for your husband to take him out once home, could you go out with him yourself, even if he’s on reins?

Also, just because you’re a teacher and your husband works in a referral unit doesn’t mean you’re going to be great at dealing with your own child’s behaviour. In some ways it might make you try less as you assume you have already got the skills to handle him, even though it’s different with your own child.

For what it’s worth I’m a Primary school teacher with a 4 and a 6 year old and the 4 year old was challenging (and still is!) Didn’t matter that I’m great with 30 children at school!

1AngelicFruitCake · 24/05/2021 07:20

I’ve just read your update about consequences.
Both my children at 2 and a half could understand basic consequences.
E.g. Walk to the park but keeps running off, not listening etc turn around and go home. If listening go back to the park.
Go into the garden and eat berries, told no then comes in. Go back out and does it again so comes in. Repeat.
Seems hard especially when pregnant but worth it in the long run because when you’re out with your baby and him you’ll need him to behave.
My youngest child still played up but she was good enough that I could take her and her sister out to parks, days out etc on my own from them being young when my husband was working and I was off.

Briarshollow · 24/05/2021 07:21

I also thought @Lovelanguedoc was just trying to be helpful OP, and you dismissed them with comments bordering on the ageist.

mag2305 · 24/05/2021 07:48

@1AngelicFruitCake I see your points. In all honesty I found the previous poster's comments to which you referred to be a bit smug and military like. But yes, an alternative point if view I guess.

I totally get that being a teacher doesn't mean you'll be a great parent. Two very different roles. However, I didn't want to give the impression that I have no regard for discipline either which other posters seemed to think. That simply isn't true.

I do what I can with my ds at the moment but it's difficult as I have various pregnancy issues this time round like spd and quite frequent, painful braxton hicks, plus a few other things that have slowed me down. Believe me my guilt and frustration at not being enough for my son at the moment is huge, hence why I probably resorted to doing this post on mumsnet in the first place. And also why I got a bit defensive with other posters.
I know you're right with berries in the garden, the park, beach, etc. but I have avoided some things like that more recently knowing that if it sparked a tantrum, I can't afford to get kicked and can't lift my son anymore to carry him off. He's a tall boy for his age and incredibly strong. However, I'm very fortunate to have a supportive family and my mum will accompany to the park if we go.
Just to clarify again, we do have boundaries and we do say no. We are consistent in that. The problem is, he is equally consistent in his defiance.

I'm not feeling at my strongest physically or mentally at the moment but hope things will improve.

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mag2305 · 24/05/2021 08:05

@Briarshollow I didn't mean to be ageist. I just felt defensive I guess. As I said above, there are other difficulties at the moment which I didn't state in my original post. Perhaps I should have done to provide more context. I suppose I was looking for supportive words and encouragment from this (my first mumsnet post) but was a little taken back by the tougher comments.

The posters that were more like, my child was also like this but I found this, this and this to work well. That sort of thing is helpful, rather than someone saying, I managed my children's behaviour well and now their well adjusted, successful adults. That's great, but it left me feeling inadequate and even more out of my depth to be honest.

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Actuallyabitgreynow · 24/05/2021 08:10

@mag2305 my little boy was just like this and still is at 4.5. It is exhausting but our lives improved drastically when I found ways to channel his energy. He is seeking proprioception input and if he does it in an inappropriate/dangerous way, I divert him to a safer way of doing it. It means having sports markers that he can use to make a path, learning animal moves (stand like a flamingo, jump like a frog, walk like a crab) etc

1AngelicFruitCake · 24/05/2021 08:48

[quote mag2305]@1AngelicFruitCake I see your points. In all honesty I found the previous poster's comments to which you referred to be a bit smug and military like. But yes, an alternative point if view I guess.

I totally get that being a teacher doesn't mean you'll be a great parent. Two very different roles. However, I didn't want to give the impression that I have no regard for discipline either which other posters seemed to think. That simply isn't true.

I do what I can with my ds at the moment but it's difficult as I have various pregnancy issues this time round like spd and quite frequent, painful braxton hicks, plus a few other things that have slowed me down. Believe me my guilt and frustration at not being enough for my son at the moment is huge, hence why I probably resorted to doing this post on mumsnet in the first place. And also why I got a bit defensive with other posters.
I know you're right with berries in the garden, the park, beach, etc. but I have avoided some things like that more recently knowing that if it sparked a tantrum, I can't afford to get kicked and can't lift my son anymore to carry him off. He's a tall boy for his age and incredibly strong. However, I'm very fortunate to have a supportive family and my mum will accompany to the park if we go.
Just to clarify again, we do have boundaries and we do say no. We are consistent in that. The problem is, he is equally consistent in his defiance.

I'm not feeling at my strongest physically or mentally at the moment but hope things will improve.[/quote]
Don’t be hard on yourself. I was just trying to let you know that as a teacher it’s frustrating to have our own battles when we can handle a class of 30!Smile

My eldest was 20 moths when my youngest was born so it was hard but I felt very well
In pregnancy so that makes a massive difference! I also didn’t have a pandemic to deal with!

Sounds like you’ve got a happy toddler and a baby on the way. Congratulations! You’ll look back at these early years and wonder how you did it! 😊

Coffeelotsofcoffee · 10/04/2022 19:24

Appreciate this is an old thread but my god this is my 2.5 year old down to a tee.
I also marvel at toddlers who happily trot down the Rd holding hands and sit in a chair out of choice and not cause they are strapped in.
I'm soo glad I'm not alone.
Hes recently taken to hedge diving . Grin
And hes lethal on a scooter.
Me and dp are relatively fit but we have to sprint full pelt to keep up with him when he runs.

Hugs and Solidarity xx

Coffeelotsofcoffee · 10/04/2022 20:11

Also can see this thread started out with some lovely supportive messages then the usual idiots turn up .(eye roll)
OP ignor them.
Your doing a great job and clearly know your stuff.

The best advice ive been given is focuw on what's behind the behaviour (usually its a need :tired, hungry,bored, scared)
And always put your relationship before the behaviours

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