AIBU for trying to get rid of these boys

[Lima1]

I live in a housing estate. When you drive in I live in a small cul de sac of 10 house that has two small green areas in front. The road then continues around to the rest of the houses all of which have green areas around them. In our row of 10 house we have 14 children who play out front. For some reason kids from the rest of the estate all come around to our area and play out the front of our houses. Generally this has been fine and they all mostly get along.
More recently 5 boys from other estates have been coming to our estate to play with the boys that are not from our cul de sac. Despite the fact there are not playing with our kids, they are all still gathering on the small greens in front of our houses.
I dont like these other boys. The last time they came around, one of them grabbed my 10 yr old DS in a headlock and banged his head off the ground and broke his glasses. All these boys are in my DS10 class. They are quite rough. After the incident I went to speak to the boys, I gave the boy who broke my DS's glasses a note to bring home to get his parents to call me and asked them to leave the estate. They laughed at me and told me I couldnt tell them what to do.
The came around yesterday evening again. My DH went out to the boy and asked him why his parents havent called us, the boys just snickered and wouldnt answer him.
I had to keep my boys inside as this big group of boys were playing on the greens outside our house. They stayed for about 2/3 hours.
I can see this becoming a regular occurrence. I dont want my kids near them. They are coming to play with the kids from the other end of the estate but all of them play outside our house even though none of the kids in the group live there.
AIBU to do something to move them to a different area, and any suggestions for how to do it.
I am conscious that most of the boys are in my DS' class and I dont want to embarrass him or cause him hassle in school.
When they came around yesterday two boys from our cul de sac were playing football on the green. The group joined in and took over to the point the two boys went in and played in their back garden.
They come up on bikes and cycle aggressively around cars coming into the estate and leave all their stuff thrown all over the paths, I hate to see them coming around.

In my experience the police were brilliant when this happened to us. Kids were cycling from an estate with no green areas or parks to us about a mile away and causing havoc and assaulting the local children....The police took it seriously but also advised that the parents of the main lead of the group were "trouble" and had various convictions including assault themselves so if we made a formal complaint we'd be dealing with bricks through the windows, dog poo through the letterbox from the parents. They suggested start keeping a log and when it happened again as a collective of parents we had a meeting with the police and made our complaints formal. It led to various action against the parents and the children stopped coming. The school didn't want to know.

If you Google anti social behaviour and children and problem neighbours you should find a site that will help.

Why are 10 year old cycling on roads away from their home unaccompanied by an adult and away for hours. Do mum and dad know / care where they are. Sounds like neglect to me and we are all responsible for alerting the SS if we think a child might be at risk

How exactly are 10 year olds out playing being neglected 😂 Bonkers

There's not really much you can do about them playing there if it's a public space OP. Could you give the teacher a note to pass on to the parent of the child who broke your son's glasses? I'd be asking for reimbursement

I think it’s funny you thought that kid would dob himself into his parents

It sounds a nightmare and being in our local town centre the kids are now basically feral it’s awful.

If it were me I’d just work with the other parents on your bit to make it as boring as possible for a while without giving them attention to make them fuck off.

Keep your own kids in or organise playing in gardens only, have one adult in the estate sat out at all times being watchful, dull and on any poor behaviour straight away.

They will get bored and move off of you don’t feed the beast.

I know they hate classical music at this age. Play loud enough they will find another stomping ground. I worry for your son though. Get him into self defence classes

Fox alarm. I can hear them and I’m in my 30s and trust me they are really annoying! I understand it’s more common for young people to be able to hear them so it would hopefully annoy at least one of the group enough to move elsewhere

I chuckled at the fact you wrote a note for the boy to take home and then your DH asked why his parents hadn't rung. That was never going to happen. Just let it fizzle out, calling the police will make it worse for your DS

The 'play classical music' is another cracker

The cracker of classical music works. The local shop did it to stop hoards of male teens blocking the doorway of the shop in the evenings. The music worked because those lurking by the door were hardly likely to be in training to a a classical musician. Try it... let us know the result

Your poor son-if that happened to an adult the police would be over and pressing assault charges. I can't imagine what it must feel like for him (& you) seeing them every day & your son having to face them in school. I agree 100% with going to police about this. It was an assault and needs to be reported.

You gave them a note and you wonder why their parents didn’t call you ? 🙄🙄

Contact the police OP your child was assaulted. Little shit bags. My son was assaulted similarly and the boys mum just said 'boys will be boys'. The police thought differently.

As much as I may if informed school about the incidence , I think people expect too much of schools
I often see people on local sm say tell the school but their hands are tied too most of the time

We had an issue with the kids in my daughter's class going completely feral after they all went back to school. Suddenly out of the blue, bullying and really bad behaviour broke up, OFF school premises, at the local park after school. Several parents went to the school to ask for help, and even though it was completely happening after school hours and in the park, the school took it super seriously and Words Were Had, and parents spoken to. And now it's all fine again.

Even though technically it's not the school's problem, your son's school may well be willing to help.

And report the assault and broken property to the police. That's not even up for debate.

To be honest I would be tempted to move. You can’t get rid of little shits like that.

@lydia2021

The cracker of classical music works. The local shop did it to stop hoards of male teens blocking the doorway of the shop in the evenings. The music worked because those lurking by the door were hardly likely to be in training to a a classical musician. Try it... let us know the result

So you go from 'bad lads' to a mad woman blaring out classical music all evening, good plan. Let me know how it goes as well OP

I would definitely report to school and log it with police. The parents need to know.

I wouldn’t ask them to leave as they are free to be there and the more you ask them the more they will stay just to annoy you - don’t show it’s getting to you.
Just watch them when your son is out playing and then go out if they’re doing anything wrong. You could also have cctv for your driveway that happens to catch the grass area too incase anything else happens.

Not quite sure how a ten year old being allowed to ride a bike on their own to play out could be described as neglect. SS would laugh.