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AIBU to meet a male friend for drinks

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mightbealittlebitmad · 15/05/2021 10:09

So I have a couple of male friends who I see on a semi regular/regular basis. One I used to work with years ago and since then we've kept in touch having lunch dates, shopping trips and drinks. My husband is fully aware and has been all along and doesn't have an issue with it, they've met once or twice but due to distance haven't seen each other in a few years.

I'm meeting him next week for lunch and non alcoholic drinks whilst the kids are at school. All good.

The other friend I now work with, he's in a long term relationship with a baby. I saw him regularly like once a week during lockdown with one or all of the kids for walks and since the pubs opened we meet weekly for drinks with his child at the pub we both work in. He's met my husband twice, I've met his partner once.

The issue is my husband is really insecure about him because he's a straight man and thinks all straight men will come onto a woman at any opportunity. I don't have any reason to think that will happen and it definitely won't happen from my end. It doesn't help that he looks like someone I had a crush on as a teenager. When we first met outside of work I told my husband and he asked me to email him at work every 15 minutes, I did despite thinking it was ridiculous especially as I had my 3 year old with me.

Anyway next week I arranged to meet a female friend for dinner and drinks in the evening at the pub I work in and I said to the male friend that he should join us for drinks as we can't do our day time catch up. My female friend has now had to cancel so I said to my male friend I was still up for drinks but I don't know how to approach my husband about this.

He won't stop me from going but it may cause tension and he may ask me not to which I'm reluctant to because I found a good friend.

For background, before this friend started at work I told my husband I wasn't sure if I wanted to stay married, I felt like we had drifted apart etc. After a few months he moved out for a bit but during that time the space helped me to realise that I did want to get the spark back so we have started making more of an effort to sit together in the evening when I'm not at work and we are hoping to do something without the kids together this week at my suggestion and I'm trying to sort out childcare. He hasn't made any arrangements to do anything since moving back in whereas I've cooked us dinner for a night together (he doesn't cook)

Over the rocky patch he did think there was someone else, thought I was bringing men back to the house, having sex with them in the hotel at work and he was tracking my location on a map to probably make sure I was where I said I was. He didn't like me getting dressed up to go out with my female friends to the pub where I work because it looked like I was out on the pull.

He seems to have got past that now and apart from asking if I had a thing going on with my friend because we met for a walk (with my mum and my 5 year old and his baby) whilst he wasn't living there.

I was looking forward to going out next week and I still can but obviously the person is now male not female.

I don't think I'm being unreasonable at all really but I just don't know how to tell my husband that I'm having drinks with this friend without the kids because I know he will disapprove and I can't be bothered with the drama.

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Hobbes8 · 15/05/2021 10:15

Your husband is being a controlling dick. I have male friends that I meet up with occasionally and my husband doesn’t bat an eyelid. The only time he got jealous was when one of them took a nice photo of me in a cocktail bar and I wondered out loud about making it my profile picture (husband is a photographer).

Is your first male friend gay? Is that why your husband is ok with him? Or is it a specific about the second man?

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 15/05/2021 10:16

Your husband sounds ridiculous.

ticktockriojaoclock · 15/05/2021 10:18

Well, do you want your independence or do you want to stay married? It seems like the two are mutually exclusive at this point.

mightbealittlebitmad · 15/05/2021 10:22

@Hobbes8

Your husband is being a controlling dick. I have male friends that I meet up with occasionally and my husband doesn’t bat an eyelid. The only time he got jealous was when one of them took a nice photo of me in a cocktail bar and I wondered out loud about making it my profile picture (husband is a photographer).

Is your first male friend gay? Is that why your husband is ok with him? Or is it a specific about the second man?

There is a suspicion he's gay but not out. I'm on the fence, my husband thinks he is.
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Shoxfordian · 15/05/2021 10:26

Your husband is controlling
Don’t let him stop you seeing your friend or living your life and definitely don’t agree to any emailing every 5 minutes nonsense either
Is he controlling in other ways as well?

Scramblerr · 15/05/2021 10:30

It depends on the parameters of your relationship. Is he allowed to meet up with women who look like people he's previously liked romantically just the two of them? Would you have an issue with that? The rules need to be the same for both of you. Some couples allow both parties to see whomever they like, some couples have a relationship where one party can say "this makes me uncomfortable" and the other is supposed to respect that. It really depends on what the situation is in your relationship and whether he's allowed to go out on one-on-one dates with women.

mightbealittlebitmad · 15/05/2021 10:37

@Shoxfordian

Your husband is controlling Don’t let him stop you seeing your friend or living your life and definitely don’t agree to any emailing every 5 minutes nonsense either Is he controlling in other ways as well?
No, I do have a few niggles at the minute because he's always making jokes about how I'm lazy and don't do anything. I do all the school and nursery runs apart from one of the PM nursery runs. I do the majority of the housework and I work evenings and weekends. I have 3 childfree days so I do things like go to the gym, meet friends (including the male one and female ones) have a nap, clean the house and at the minute I'm doing a lot of work to make the house look better so painting and decorating.

I do between 3 to 4 shifts a week, hours vary because lately due to the weather and only being allowed outside we've been dead so my shifts have been cancelled or I've been sent home.

I haven't tried to find a day job because of the uncertainty of the job market and trying to find one to fit around school isn't easy. I have a good thing going at my job now, they give me the days off when I need, don't mind if I'm late because my husband is late home and I really enjoy working there. They just can't give me the hours I need without us paying for breakfast club and an extra nursery hour which he thinks isn't worth it because it will cost an hour's wages so we won't be better off plus he will have to get the kids up and ready and out the door for 7.30 whereas at the minute he just needs to get himself ready and out the door by 7.30.

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mightbealittlebitmad · 15/05/2021 10:39

@Scramblerr

It depends on the parameters of your relationship. Is he allowed to meet up with women who look like people he's previously liked romantically just the two of them? Would you have an issue with that? The rules need to be the same for both of you. Some couples allow both parties to see whomever they like, some couples have a relationship where one party can say "this makes me uncomfortable" and the other is supposed to respect that. It really depends on what the situation is in your relationship and whether he's allowed to go out on one-on-one dates with women.
I don't have an issue with him going out one to one with women but he doesn't have any female friends. He did a few years back and met up with a couple without me but he thinks because it wasn't one to one it was different.

He doesn't really go out much, once a week biking with a male friend.

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mightbealittlebitmad · 15/05/2021 10:41

For reference the guy in the past was 20 years older than me and I was 15. It lasted a few years because he was in a different country and I didn't really see him so when I did it was all teenage crushery until I grew up a bit.

He used to play in bars etc so I was a groupy, poor guy 🤣

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SylvanianFrenemies · 15/05/2021 10:47

I probably wouldn't go for this particular drink with a new male friend who I didn't already have that kind of friendship with.

However, your husband controlling and stalking you is the far greater problem. The drink issue is a red herring.

JingsMahBucket · 15/05/2021 10:50

Your husband is controlling and he’s mentally abusing you by saying you’re lazy when you’re so obviously not. Your first instinct when you separated was correct. You’re better off without him. He literally doesn’t bring anything to the relationship, you said so yourself.

Take the tracking off your phone too. Just turn off the feature.

Enjoy your time with your friend(s) and don’t lose those connections to your support network.

ClarkeGriffin · 15/05/2021 10:56

What exactly does he do around the house considering what you do? And yet he calls you lazy? Hmm

You should be able to have friends op and you know this. He is being controlling and an ass.

WorraLiberty · 15/05/2021 10:58

Sorry, I couldn't really get past you emailing your husband 'every 15 minutes'. Why on earth would you deliberately want to recreate a spark with such a control freak? Confused

Dump him. You know this relationship is not going to last and if it did (God forbid), do you really want your DC growing up thinking this is an ok way to treat someone you claim to love?

WorraLiberty · 15/05/2021 10:58

That was a generic 'you' btw.

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mightbealittlebitmad · 15/05/2021 11:08

@ClarkeGriffin

What exactly does he do around the house considering what you do? And yet he calls you lazy? Hmm

You should be able to have friends op and you know this. He is being controlling and an ass.

He does things like the DIY, looking after the cars and general things like washing if I ask him to and the childcare solo when I'm not at work.

It's been a weird few months, when he left he was really angry with me for ruining his life and breaking the family apart. He said he would never forgive me and didn't want to even look at me. He was still coming to see the kids but at one point he suggested me waiting in the car so he didn't have to see me.

I have been an emotional wreck during lockdown and whilst he was away and not really knowing what I wanted. I missed him, didn't miss him and so I knew I was messing with his head. When he said he wanted to move back in after we had dinner I agreed to it because I knew I was being unfair not knowing what I wanted so I had to make a decision and stick to it.

We've been together so long that I don't really remember a life without him and it's a scary prospect. Plus the fact I did miss him made me think maybe there was something worth trying again for.

There have been issues with sex, me saying no, him getting moody about it so I'm going ahead with it anyway and making it clear I'm giving it to shut him up. He had a go at me for getting a hamster when he moved out because he didn't want one and it wasn't fair that he couldn't get sex but I could get a hamster.

It was all just very messy and strange, things feel a lot more normal now.

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emmylousings · 15/05/2021 11:10

I can't get past the bit about him accusing you of shagging people at work! Probably triggered me as I have an abusive ex who did that. It's gaslighting, deeply offensive, and probably suggests they have warped ideas about female sexuailty and are not to be trusted themselves. I also really dislike him sarky comments about your schedule, you sound busy and together. He sounds like an upright, insecure dick. He's going to torture you if he gets the chance I think op. I think you'd be happier without him, and you are capable. You don't need him.

SleepingStandingUp · 15/05/2021 11:13

because he's a straight man and thinks all straight men will come onto a woman at any opportunity
So your partner is admitting he comes into web at any opportunity and if he went for a drink with a female friend he'd try and have sex with her.

UCOinanOCG · 15/05/2021 11:33

If I were you I would go for the drink and also rethink my relationship. He sounds controlling and needy.

SylvanianFrenemies · 15/05/2021 11:34

"There have been issues with sex, me saying no, him getting moody about it so I'm going ahead with it anyway and making it clear I'm giving it to shut him up. He had a go at me for getting a hamster when he moved out because he didn't want one and it wasn't fair that he couldn't get sex but I could get a hamster."

I'm sorry your husband is sexually assaulting you. I know you aren't in the frame of mind to recognise that. When you are, Womens Aid will help. Life doesn't have to be like this.

DaphneDuBois · 15/05/2021 11:53

Your husband sounds very immature. He’s got issues with control and jealousy but it’s really important that you don’t feel like you have to put up with it / try to accommodate his demands. The 15 minute email thing is beyond unacceptable. I’d be telling him straight that while I have no interest in hooking up with my friends behind his back, a sure way for him to force the relationship to come to an end is to carry on being throughly unattractive himself by being possessive and putting me down. If he can’t appreciate you, get rid. You get one life and he’s being a PITA in yours.

ClarkeGriffin · 15/05/2021 12:21

He was upset that you got a hamster, but he can't have sex? Confused

He is a really strange man. Maybe if he was nicer, supportive, helpful etc you'd want to have sex with him. Try telling him that if you want to stay with him.

mightbealittlebitmad · 18/05/2021 10:01

Update, he has voiced his disapproval but says he can't stop me from going out. He thinks it's weird that I'm going out with a man but is totally fine with a woman. He thinks man+woman+drinks=affair so is worried I'm going to sleep with him or that my friend wants me to sleep with him.

I have no idea what to wear tonight now, I was going to wear a long sleeved short legged playsuit with tights and over the knee boots but I know he's going to kick off over it because whenever I wear that kind of outfit to go out he thinks I'm on the pull. I just want to look nice, nothing fits since I've put on weight during lockdown and when I went out in April I had to wear millions of layers so I didn't freeze outside.

Argh it's all just a massive headache, I feel like cancelling the whole thing, it's just not worth the stress. Am I just being selfish wanting to go out with friends and not considering how my husband feels and that he's worried?

He thinks we don't spend enough time together and that we should do stuff together which I totally agree with. I did attempt to arrange something for this week but it's not worked out due to childcare but I said to him there is nothing to stop him asking me what my shifts are, organising childcare and booking us a table somewhere, it shouldn't have to be down to me.

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Noodles4Me · 18/05/2021 11:19

Have you read the replies @mightbealittlebitmad? Your "partner"... he's negging you, criticising you, tracking you, controlling you and sexually assaulting you.

Seeing your friend and what to wear is not the issue.

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