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Original poster

To ask if anyone knows what happens in this situation re council tenants

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GrapeFrewt · 13/05/2021 12:08

Live next door to absolutely horrid neighbours. The property is council owned.

Originally it was woman, children and man. Woman has now left, I suspect due to DV as always heard lots of shouting, police out multiple times etc...

I believe that she has now moved in with parents.

This means just the man is left and he is vile and I worry will be even worse now with no girlfriend and kids around.

We understand from conversations beforehand that the property was in the woman's name with the council.

What happens now? Now she has moved out with their children will be need to go? The property is obviously a family home so I'd have thought it would be more use to the council for a family rather than a single man.

DH thinks they will leave him where he is, I'm wondering if they'd move him somewhere smaller now? (Just fucking anywhere else would be nice).

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normalsaline · 13/05/2021 12:10

what’s your AIBU?

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GrapeFrewt · 13/05/2021 12:12

@normalsaline

what’s your AIBU?
Okay if you really need one to answer... AIBU to hope to God that they chuck him out now his girlfriend and kids have left?

Is that okay now?

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Welshcakes03 · 13/05/2021 12:15

No they won't throw him out they might offer him a cash to release bedrooms so he will move into a smaller property.
Interested in why he is 'vile'

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GrapeFrewt · 13/05/2021 12:17

Hes vile because I am 99.9% sure he beats his girlfriend, the police get called enough about it and I hear very convincing things through the wall the lead me to believe it's true.

He's vile because he hangs around with friends outside the house at all hours of the night and day smoking drugs, being loud and abusive to neighbours.

There have been lots of situations which I won't go into here.

But trust me, he is not a nice person.

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WhoWants2Know · 13/05/2021 12:18

Surely if the tenancy is in her name, he has no right to remain in the property?

But the council won't know unless someone tells them.

ColdTattyWaitingForSummer · 13/05/2021 12:19

If you’re in Scotland they have recently updated council tenancies to make perpetrating domestic violence an explicit breach of tenancy. This includes both physical violence and coercive control. But I think it would be down to the victim to report it rather than a neighbour. I imagine the council would see the man leaving, and the woman and her children returning to live safely in the house, as the ideal solution. If he was never on the tenancy, I don’t think he has any right to remain if the actual tenant leaves.

FortniteBoysMum · 13/05/2021 12:19

In theory it should be reported by the woman to the council so they can remove him and give her back her home. Alternatively the woman should give up all rights to the property and either the council let him take it on or make him leave to rent it to another family

Boomboomboomboom · 13/05/2021 12:20

It depends in whose name the tenancy was, whether they are married, and/or whether someone has served a notice to end the tenancy. Quite a complicated legal situation which I'm not going to recite here.
You could tell the council that she has left and you suspect DV. They'll carry put investigations and do what is legal.

That could include possession proceedings again man but depends on a number of factors.

LadyWhistledownsQuill · 13/05/2021 12:20

Phone the council up and tell them. They can then act according to their policies (I like to think they'll evict him, change the locks and move the girlfriend and kids back in) but can't if no one tells them

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GrapeFrewt · 13/05/2021 12:21

I imagine the council would see the man leaving, and the woman and her children returning to live safely in the house, as the ideal solution

I would have thought so too.

I don't think she has any intention though, I've seen her a couple of times coming back with her parents to get her things whilst he's out.

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Ponoka7 · 13/05/2021 12:22

The council will give him notice to quit, as they do with family members when the tenant dies. She will have to formally give up the tenancy. They may be working with her to either evict him, or find her somewhere else.

Did you ever call the police when you heard DV? Have you complained about the anti-social behaviour? Start keeping a diary of it.

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GrapeFrewt · 13/05/2021 12:23

@LadyWhistledownsQuill

Phone the council up and tell them. They can then act according to their policies (I like to think they'll evict him, change the locks and move the girlfriend and kids back in) but can't if no one tells them
I think I will, I'd have to do it anonymously though, I'd be scared of getting a brick chucked through my window or something similar if I didn't. He smashed someone's car windscreen on the street not long ago, I assume because they had said something.
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GrapeFrewt · 13/05/2021 12:24

Yes I have phoned the police as have neighbours across the street and on the other side of them before.

They don't seem to do anything other than just 'come for a chat' with him though.

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FoxyTheFox · 13/05/2021 13:19

If he is on the tenancy agreement/rent book then he is allowed to stay in the property even if she has moved out. If he's claiming Housing Benefit then this will be reduced to take into account t the extra bedrooms ("bedroom tax") but if he's paying full rent then there would be no financial penalty for under-occupying.

The anti-social behaviour is a side issue and you would (and should) keep reporting this so that action can be taken on it but in terms of "will they make him leave now she's moved out?" - possibly not.

x2boys · 13/05/2021 14:18

If he's on the tenancy agreement,he has as much right to live in the property as her , assuming he's not ,then he had no rights to live there

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