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To think hygiene standards are low in Britain?

834 replies

castemary · 10/05/2021 10:46

This obviously does not apply to everyone. But in Britain, I think there is a general acceptance of fairly low hygiene standards. I see it in several areas.
With individuals you have people telling everyone they do not wash bras for months, do not clean their teeth every day, do not wash face masks every day.
In public areas, offices and shops the cleaning often consist of no more than a quick hoover occasionally, a mop and a bit of damp wiping. Apart from toilets, places are rarely properly cleaned.
I think most people simply do not realise how unhygienic Britain is until they go to countries that do have a good standard of hygiene. There seems to be a lot of emphasis in Britain on superficial things that make places look good such as scatter cushions or make-up, and not on basic hygiene and cleanliness.
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FlyingLoo · 10/05/2021 21:32

I agree 100% op. Some of the things I read on here Envy (definitely NOT envy).

redcandlelight · 10/05/2021 21:34

carpets in bathrooms or communal areas/stairs have me shudder. I have only encountered those in uk.

Spectrumofhumanlife · 10/05/2021 21:40

@SantiagoSky

Food poisoning seems to be a bigger problem in the UK than elsewhere for some reason. Except from that I've never noticed low hygiene standards.
The only time I’ve ever had food poisoning was in Japan. I was hospitalised and lost 2 stone. Not pleasant.
tigger1001 · 10/05/2021 21:47

@Puttingouthefirewithgasoline

People focus on the wrong things, many worship their floor, and preserve it, clean it, fall out with people over it and yet, we rarely take in germs from the floor.

PEOPLE happily share drinks, spoons.. Saliva 🙄also the lack of bidets....

I have two kids. I have shared far more than a bit of saliva with another person.
Ihatesalad · 10/05/2021 21:55

I’m living in Copenhagen at the moment— it’s definitely cleaner , supermarkets look far cleaner and I’ve yet to use a loo anywhere that wasn’t spit spot , as is the metro

JackieWeaverHandforthCouncil · 10/05/2021 21:56

There are legions of filthy people in the U.K. They try and pretend their ways are normal by starting threads on here joking about not washing their hands when they go to the loo or not flushing the loo, using same bedding for weeks, skanky plastic washing up bowl in kitchen sink, showering only 3 times a week, same skanky knickers on for days, not showering after exercise and covering up with deodorant and make up etc.

Northernsoullover · 10/05/2021 22:02

I have family in Spain and when we visited a shopping centre in Madrid my mother and I observed people exiting the toilet cubicle and walking straight out. This happened often enough for us to be shocked by it. Am I concluding that Spanish are dirty? No. Do I think some areas of the UK are dirty? Yes. Some people have skanky habits and others don't. Its as simple as that.

BeneathYourWisdom · 10/05/2021 22:11

I still can’t believe it’s not yet the norm here to have a hose installed next to the loo, and wash yourself with warm running water instead of dry paper! Dry toilet paper, why? If you don’t have a hose or jug you could at least use wet wipes or that foamy gel stuff on the paper. I’ve lived abroad and going back to English bathrooms can be a shock.

Even the layout is often unhygienic eg toothbrushes stored next to the loo so every time it’s flushed they get splashed with loo germs. The fastest way to spread norovirus and other bugs! Mouldy carpet edges and poor ventilation so everything stays damp.

I think carpet in bathrooms is very unhygienic. Wet rooms are much better, you just disinfect the floor and hose it down. In many countries kitchen floors have drains too, so when you’ve finished cooking you spray it then hose it down and all the dirty water goes down a drain. Saves using a grubby mop and you know it’s always clean, no splashes of oil or sauce or juice left for weeks to gather bacteria and fluff.

I’m shocked people don’t always clean their kitchen and bathroom sinks daily, clean their loo after each use and generally keep on top of basic hygiene like wiping down surfaces with Dettol before and after food prep.

I think it’s important to shower before going to work if you’ll be in close proximity to others, use anti perspirant and wear freshly washed clothes. With close family it’s still good hygiene to wash hands regularly, clean and floss teeth twice a day and wash feet, armpits, genital area, face every morning even if not taking a shower. Plus clean underwear.

Obviously if someone has disabilities or these self care tasks use up a lot of energy it’s a different matter. But a lot of people without disabilities don’t seem to care/notice if they’re wearing the same clothes to work day after day or have greasy hair and dandruff or smell of stale sweat.

I also think it’s really grim to wear outdoor shoes indoors (unheard of in much of the world, and the height of rudeness in many countries). Carpet or rugs or wooden floors, why bring pavement dirt and bacteria into your home?

I’m also not keen on pets indoors unless they have a specific room, their own bed in that room and this room is thoroughly cleaned and vacuumed daily to prevent pet smell and shedded hair building up. Let alone pets in kitchens.

I also think many people don’t understand bacteria and viruses and how they spread, eg damp towels and damp bath robes are a breeding ground for microbes, and bacteria can quickly multiply on uncovered food left out of the fridge.

Same with dust and limescale, if you keep on top of it there’s no build up. And washing machines, why don’t people clean the filter and run the machine on a hot cycle every month at least?

Blossomtoes · 10/05/2021 22:19

@redcandlelight

carpets in bathrooms or communal areas/stairs have me shudder. I have only encountered those in uk.
What the hell’s wrong with carpets on stairs?
vodkaredbullgirl · 10/05/2021 22:23

[shocked]

Beatinghearts · 10/05/2021 22:24

I’ve never known anyone to not wash their bra or brush their teeth for day.

vodkaredbullgirl · 10/05/2021 22:24
Shock
TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 10/05/2021 22:25

Someone needs to explain to me why washing up bowls are a problem.

Spectrumofhumanlife · 10/05/2021 22:25

Bloody hell some people have a lot of time on their hands. I wonder how many people have become ill from having carpeted stairs? Or from mopping floors rather than hosing them down?

LST · 10/05/2021 22:26

@tttigress

Haven't been swimming in the UK for a while, but when I did I didn't see people taking a shower before swimming.

Pretty gross.

Wow you learn something new everyday. When I went swimming with school the time to factor in 30 kids showering before swimming just wasn't a thing
LST · 10/05/2021 22:28

@redcandlelight

carpets in bathrooms or communal areas/stairs have me shudder. I have only encountered those in uk.
In flats? Surely you don't think carpets on people's stairs is grim? What about hotels? Ever watch the shining? That wasn't in the UK.
vodkaredbullgirl · 10/05/2021 22:29

I do housework twice a week, clean from top to bottom. Once a year I have a deep clean. Kitchen floor gets cleaned once a week, got 2 dogs no point cleaning it every day. Bath cleaned every time it is used, sink twice a week. Not one of us has been ill because I don't clean every day.

XenoBitch · 10/05/2021 22:31

@JackieWeaverHandforthCouncil

There are legions of filthy people in the U.K. They try and pretend their ways are normal by starting threads on here joking about not washing their hands when they go to the loo or not flushing the loo, using same bedding for weeks, skanky plastic washing up bowl in kitchen sink, showering only 3 times a week, same skanky knickers on for days, not showering after exercise and covering up with deodorant and make up etc.
You have pretty much described me, and I don't care. Maybe I missed the memo that said what you have mentioned are hard and fast rules.
LouLou789 · 10/05/2021 22:32

I must admit that I’ve been shocked at how many “wash your hands” reminders people have needed. I always washed them anyway. I’m less diligent about clothes washing. Obviously daily undies/sox but surely trousers and dresses can be worn a couple of times? Travelling abroad, the cleanest country I’ve visited was Austria.

pinkstripeycat · 10/05/2021 22:33

The French, Spanish and Italians are known for being unhygienic

LST · 10/05/2021 22:34

@BeneathYourWisdom

I still can’t believe it’s not yet the norm here to have a hose installed next to the loo, and wash yourself with warm running water instead of dry paper! Dry toilet paper, why? If you don’t have a hose or jug you could at least use wet wipes or that foamy gel stuff on the paper. I’ve lived abroad and going back to English bathrooms can be a shock.

Even the layout is often unhygienic eg toothbrushes stored next to the loo so every time it’s flushed they get splashed with loo germs. The fastest way to spread norovirus and other bugs! Mouldy carpet edges and poor ventilation so everything stays damp.

I think carpet in bathrooms is very unhygienic. Wet rooms are much better, you just disinfect the floor and hose it down. In many countries kitchen floors have drains too, so when you’ve finished cooking you spray it then hose it down and all the dirty water goes down a drain. Saves using a grubby mop and you know it’s always clean, no splashes of oil or sauce or juice left for weeks to gather bacteria and fluff.

I’m shocked people don’t always clean their kitchen and bathroom sinks daily, clean their loo after each use and generally keep on top of basic hygiene like wiping down surfaces with Dettol before and after food prep.

I think it’s important to shower before going to work if you’ll be in close proximity to others, use anti perspirant and wear freshly washed clothes. With close family it’s still good hygiene to wash hands regularly, clean and floss teeth twice a day and wash feet, armpits, genital area, face every morning even if not taking a shower. Plus clean underwear.

Obviously if someone has disabilities or these self care tasks use up a lot of energy it’s a different matter. But a lot of people without disabilities don’t seem to care/notice if they’re wearing the same clothes to work day after day or have greasy hair and dandruff or smell of stale sweat.

I also think it’s really grim to wear outdoor shoes indoors (unheard of in much of the world, and the height of rudeness in many countries). Carpet or rugs or wooden floors, why bring pavement dirt and bacteria into your home?

I’m also not keen on pets indoors unless they have a specific room, their own bed in that room and this room is thoroughly cleaned and vacuumed daily to prevent pet smell and shedded hair building up. Let alone pets in kitchens.

I also think many people don’t understand bacteria and viruses and how they spread, eg damp towels and damp bath robes are a breeding ground for microbes, and bacteria can quickly multiply on uncovered food left out of the fridge.

Same with dust and limescale, if you keep on top of it there’s no build up. And washing machines, why don’t people clean the filter and run the machine on a hot cycle every month at least?

I'm sorry, but some of the 'issues' you raise there are just not normal. Blimey
mainsfed · 10/05/2021 22:36

My French teacher in secondary school told us the French think the British are dirty because we don’t have bidets!

HintofVintagePink · 10/05/2021 22:42

What is a bum gun?!!

Kokosrieksts · 10/05/2021 22:43

@FourTeaFallOut
Personally, I like to attack a chicken breast with a pressure washer in the garden before it hits the chopping board. None of this half-arsed sink washing nonsense.

This really made me laugh Grin

lissie123 · 10/05/2021 22:44

Washing your hands after using the loo and before eating. Think we forgot about these basic hygiene rules before Covid.