AIBU?
XenoBitch · 07/05/2021 23:59
@Beatinghearts
It has been around a long time.. but it was a pilot scheme in most places. I know of people it has helped a lot... and also those who it was harmful for (me).
It is voluntary though. No one is forced into it.
XenoBitch · 08/05/2021 00:05
@TaraR2020
off to Google...
It is a scheme set up between mental health services and the police to deal with people who come into contact with both a lot. If someone keeps dangling off a bridge, for example, this scheme is there to try and help them stop doing that... but by threatening them with prosecution, and no real help. I was under this scheme... it was doing me harm so I took myself out of it.
XenoBitch · 08/05/2021 00:09
There is concern that it means people who regularly exhibit suicidal behaviours are being treated as criminals, and not as mental health patients. This scheme is primarily aimed at people with diagnosis such as Borderline Personality Disorder. Many mental health teams hate dealing with such patients, so this scheme is a way to shuffle them off into the criminal system instead. I was told by my police mentor that I was not ill.. I was attention seeking and I just needed to get a job. I was also told this by the man who invented the whole thing too.
XenoBitch · 08/05/2021 00:22
@TaraR2020
The guy who invented it sat there, looked me in the eye, and said me hanging off a bridge in a suicidal state of mind is a criminal offence because I could land on a family of picnickers underneath. He even drew me a fucking diagram.
ifIwerenotanandroid · 08/05/2021 00:29
I've only seen people talking about their experiences of it on twitter, & it was all bad. I've just looked at a couple of the official bits via twitter & my impression is that it could mean absolutely anything on the ground. I'd be interested to hear peoples' experiences of it, whether service users or professionals.
XenoBitch · 08/05/2021 00:33
[quote TaraR2020]@XenoBitch I am so sorry you were treated that way, its inhuman and unbelievably callous. How are you now?
I am so angry now, I can't believe this has been around for so long and this is the first I've heard of it.[/quote]
I am angry that it appears to be being rolled out nationwide. When I was under it, it was basically pilot schemes. If it is being rolled out, maybe the data is showing that it works. But at what cost? It damaged my own mental health more. It was invalidating and made me feel like I was in the wrong for being in crisis.
I removed myself from it (and ironically enough, the cop mentor I had assigned to me had her own nervous breakdown). I continued with the DBT therapy I had done along with 1:1 with my therapist. I also had my own crisis plan with the police what we worked together on. Not many cops knew of SIM back then, and the ones that did also thought it was bollocks.
TaraR2020 · 08/05/2021 16:36
I'm really glad you were able to get out the programme and get some proper therapy, it sounds like you've come a long way and I hope you feel that's true. 
I've shared the petition against it's rollout with friends, thank you @Beatinghearts for bringing it to our attention - regardless of whether other people share my opinion its rollout ought to be public knowledge.
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