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AIBU Work from Home Timesheets

38 replies

Mum2b43 · 07/05/2021 17:59

A bit of background...
I work as a deputy manager of a nursery school. It’s 4 days a week. Council offered funding to pay for my salary 2 days a week to WFH. Basically for the council ... I work specifically for children moving onto reception. It entails lots of zoom meetings with other prof, planning and phone calls. Therefore I do this work from home 1 day a week. Council pays for 2 but I was asked to do it in 1 as they need me in the building the rest of the time.
I work my butt off often WFH on my day off, never claim overtime.
My manager told me she is happy with my work, but, from now on wants me to fill in a time sheet for my 1 day a week I WFH. Basically listing every phone call, every email, every single thing I do with times and minutes taken. I have done nothing to deserve this reaction, everyone including council really happy with my work. I work my arse off.
I find this new timesheet patronising and insulting... AIBU to say No way!

OP posts:
Stuckforlong · 07/05/2021 19:31

My workplace asked me to produce these work logs during first lockdown . After a few weeks they told us all not to bother don't think they wanted the hassle of going through it all .

lljkk · 07/05/2021 19:34

would she accept a

log of phone calls made (start time, approx duration)
log of emails sent (time sent)
I can spend half an hour composing an email, so maybe start time to composing emails, too

time I need to keep a timesheet is annoying but really only 15 minutes/day or so

NoIDontWatchLoveIsland · 07/05/2021 19:43

You need to know what people are spending time on in order to manage the workload.

Not in this way you don't. You can simply ask to estimate what proportion of time goes to different projects or task areas.

Companies do this (excluding client billed services which are different) when they want to make sure that any efficiency savings (where the employee is able to do something quicker than expected) benefit only the employer and never the employee. They want to give you more work if there's so much as a spare minute. My reaction to this would be to refuse to do extra hours I'm not getting paid for. Because actually you are either paid for the work in which case it's none of their business how long it takes you as long as it's done well and ob time, or you're paid to work for a number of hours, in which case you should get overtime if doing extra.

It's why op isnt being asked to do a timesheet for the day she is in the workplace setting. Her manager is being a snoopy cow.

user1471457751 · 07/05/2021 19:59

Is the overtime you do on your wfh day equivalent to a day's work? Because if not it sounds like your employer is defrauding the council and you are complicit in this

Mum2b43 · 07/05/2021 20:08

That’s awful. It’s so degrading isn’t it!

OP posts:
SnowdaySewday · 07/05/2021 20:22

So the council is paying the nursery for two days of your time and the nursery is only releasing you for one day?

That money comes from the public purse and has to be accounted for.
The nursery should be releasing you for both days or, if it needs you in the setting on three days a week, paying you for five days a week.

Whose phone and computer are you using for this work? If it is the council's (which it should be), they will easily be able to see when you are logged on or making calls and whether that tallies with the money being paid out. Even if you are using your own or nursery ICT, the council will be aware from talking to schools that you are only available for meetings with schools on one of your working days a week.

It's possible that the council are asking the nursery to account for the hours they are paying them for. Send your time records in pdf format, and cc yourself into the email when you submit them, or photograph or scan them, so they can not be altered.

Animum2 · 07/05/2021 21:41

We have to list everything we do on a daily basis on a score checklist and then a manager will give a percentage of how much work we did as a team, usually anything around 80% is deemed above average

Auntycorruption · 07/05/2021 21:43

@Mum2b43

Nope. I am only one doing extra work by council. But I like this idea, maybe pointing out the paper trail might prove council are paying me for 2 days and I am only working 1.
Definitely do this!
IndieKate · 07/05/2021 22:19

I used to work for a charity that brought this in. Our funding came mainly from a government department and they wanted us to account for every minute of the day's work.

It caused a lot of bad feeling and lots of very good staff left.
Then the funding was cut and half the staff were made redundant. It created an awful atmosphere, everyone was so demotivated.

DrJPuddleDuck · 07/05/2021 22:40

I had this one in a company that did it as policy. I didn’t stay long - such a horrible, untrusting culture. I also used to write on my time sheet “time spent filling out timesheet” to annoy them!

Cipot · 07/05/2021 22:55

You can easily tell if someone is doing their job or not without this. It's a waste of time. People just make up nonsense to fill the gaps. Anyone conscientious feels guilty all the time and ultimately leaves.

Katesblazer · 07/05/2021 23:01

We had to account for every 15 minutes of the day. It was tedious. I always put 15 minutes a day for filling in time sheet.

MrsFin · 07/05/2021 23:03

I would submit
9-10 made phone calls
10-11 made phone calls
11-11.05 had a wee
11.05-12.00 made phone calls
12-12.30 had lunch
12.30-1.30 made phone calls

And so on to finish time. Then submit the same log every day.

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