Is muffin bread or cake?

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Please settle this discussion between my friend and her partner. He thinks muffins are bread and she thinks muffins are cake. Go...

There are two different types-English muffin are bread, and American style muffins are cake!

English muffins are bread.

American muffins are cake.

Yes you can get English muffins (bread) and sweet muffins (cake)

Well both.
English muffins are bready, muffins are cake.
I like the English one's best.

The flat ones that you toast and put butter on, and might be cheesy, are bread. The cupcake-shaped ones that are sweet and might be chocolate or lemon flavoured are a completely different thing and are cake

In my brand new recently formed opinion, if you butter it, its bread. If you'd drizzle icing on, it's cake.

Unless you're a dinner lady with spare hotdogs buns and a loose definition of what iced buns are....

I assume you mean the nice fluffy ones because those are called muffins, the other ones everyone is pedantically mentioned are call ENGLISH muffins, not muffins.

Anyway to answer your question: my ideal muffin is a perfect blend of the 2. Like a bread but softer, like a cake but fluffier. I bought a muffin the other day with a coffee and it was basically a heavy cupcake and I was so disappointed.

Anyway according to google a muffin is most definitely a bread. Argument settled.

Is it general question or for VAT purposes😁

I think in any situation I agree with pps.
English muffin bread
Sweet muffin cake

But I eonder if there might be just about enough sugar in English muffin to push it over in VAT?

Thanks guys, I have forwarded your responses on! Wasn't sure I would get any replies but I'm very appreciative :)

Depends on the descriptive term(s) in front of it.

English muffin - breakfasty bread product
Chip muffin - bread bun, barm cake, bap, cob, bread roll, whatever your colloquial word of choice, it's bread
Chocolate chip muffin - cake

@SchrodingersImmigrant LOL at your exceptionally specific analysis! 🤓⭐️🏆

Definitely bread.

@GaspingGekko

Depends on the descriptive term(s) in front of it.

English muffin - breakfasty bread product
Chip muffin - bread bun, barm cake, bap, cob, bread roll, whatever your colloquial word of choice, it's bread
Chocolate chip muffin - cake

Exactly what I came to say!! 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍

[quote MoominFeatures]@SchrodingersImmigrant LOL at your exceptionally specific analysis! 🤓⭐️🏆[/quote]
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@Wallabyone

There are two different types-English muffin are bread, and American style muffins are cake!

This.

Are they both talking about the same type of muffin?

There are two types! So technically they’re both right.

@MolyHolyGuacamole

I assume you mean the nice fluffy ones because those are called muffins, the other ones everyone is pedantically mentioned are call ENGLISH muffins, not muffins.

Anyway to answer your question: my ideal muffin is a perfect blend of the 2. Like a bread but softer, like a cake but fluffier. I bought a muffin the other day with a coffee and it was basically a heavy cupcake and I was so disappointed.

No, you’re wrong, if you are in England.

Muffins have always just been called muffins and live with crumpets and pike let’s as toastable bready things.

American-style muffins are just cakes which have been culturally imposed on us over the years. Nice enough, but should be called American Muffins or similar.

Are they talking about the same type of muffin as each other or are they having a stupid argument based on neither of them being aware there's more than one type of muffin? Surely not?