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Electrician charges to my very recently widowed DM

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YouokHun · 30/04/2021 23:32

I wonder if I could have the benefit of your thoughts about this mumsnetters? I’m a bit scared of AIBU but I’m posting here for a bit of traffic and also because I may be U. It’s a pretty boring post for a Friday night and I’m sorry it’s a bit long winded, but there is a bit of an emotional backdrop to it which might be clouding my judgement.

Back in February my elderly parents had a quote (fixed price not an estimate) from a local electrician to replace an electric bathroom fan. The price he quoted in writing was based on him having full access to view the old fan and to go into the loft above to check what needed to be done, check the state of the 10 year old wiring etc. At the time my father was very ill, on oxygen and receiving Hospice at Home care, so a stressful time. My father emailed to accept the quote of £220.00 (in the south east, just to give a context for the cost) and asked the electrician to do the job as soon as he could. The electrician turned up three weeks later, by which time my father was in the last days of his life and without the energy to really communicate. As you can imagine this was a really difficult time. I happened to be present when electrician turned up, he was in a bad temper when he arrived and he got progressively more ratty about the state of the wiring in my parents loft as if they’d deliberately given him a difficult job. It was obviously a bit of a nightmare job for him and he spent a considerable time whinging to the hospice nurses about how hot and unpleasant it was in the loft etc etc which wasn’t really appropriate as he could see my DF lying in the next room on oxygen and clearly gravely ill and my DF really didn’t need to have to listen to it. We were pretty happy when he left after about 4 hours.

Later that evening my mother went into the bathroom and found that though the fan was now working better the lights over the basin didn’t work. This appeared to be related to the electrician’s work as they’d been fine that morning. My mum called him to tell him and he said he’d come back and look the next day, but he didn’t turn up. About 6 days later my dad died at home, it was a horrible time and deeply traumatic for my mother after 60 years of marriage. It’s a whole other story but suffice to say we forgot that the electrician needed to come back.

He turned up out of the blue unannounced 10 days after my father had died. He was in the house for about 15 minutes and established that the lights didn’t work because of a switch [he’d left off] wasn’t switched on. He asked where my father was and my mother told him. Two hours later my DM received an email invoice which was now £220 plus another £80 for his visit to put right his error on a job he’d quoted £220 for, he never told her he’d be charging for the visit. Then over the next few days he sent her two curt emails reminding her to pay the £300 she owed. She went ahead and paid as she was feeling quite harassed and was already upset. Then two weeks after the lights started tripping as soon as she turned on the bathroom lights/fan, so she was left in darkness. This kept happening and so she called the electrician to ask him to sort out yet another problem that had started to happen since the initial job. My DM is a very polite person and really not asking much but he was pretty snappy with her despite knowing that she was just widowed. He came again today to see about the tripping lights and was there for about 20 minutes talking bulbs out of fittings and putting them back and he’s said he can’t fix it without coming back in and he can’t come for a week and tonight she’s been sent another £80 bill with demands for immediate settlement. He’s no doubt planning to charge her next time too, probably much more than £80.

I may be being unreasonable because I am feeling very protective of her, but I think if you give a fixed quote for a job based on having full access to assess the situation and having the opportunity to price accordingly you then do not charge more to “fault find” faults that have only been occurring since your first intervention? Though he’s implying they’re total separate issues. He’s pissed me off anyway and if I’d known about this she wouldn’t have paid him yet. But I’m also getting the sense that he’s spotted a cash cow.

AIBU about the further charging? My DM is upset and feeling out of control and worried about money (because bill paying is all new to her at 78) and so I’m not sure I’m not overreacting on her behalf. I’m also pretty upset myself at the moment and could do without having a confrontation with a bad tempered electrician. What would you think is reasonable to say to the electrician? Any electricians out there with a perspective?

Sorry, that was really long!

OP posts:
Carpet0fTruth474 · 01/05/2021 00:23

Ask around friends & family to recommend you a friendly local electrician

Stop using the existing one

Shamoo · 01/05/2021 00:29

How horrible for you all OP, and sorry for your loss.

I would email him and say it clearly wasn’t appropriate for him to charge your mother for visiting to turn on the switch he left off. Therefore he can apply the £80 he incorrectly invoiced her for that work (and owes her a refund for) to the call out fee for the latest visit. So you will call it evens. Then confirm you won’t be using him again. And find somebody else.

Best of luck.

LittlestBoho · 01/05/2021 00:35

I'm sorry for your loss Flowers

Definitely stop calling out this electrician. He sounds like a completely liability, and I can't believe he was loudly complaining about the work while your dad was so ill.

Shamoos suggestion about attributing the previous £80 payment to this latest invoice is a good one. He should definitely not be charging you for works he messed up in the first place!

avamiah · 01/05/2021 00:36

I’m sorry for your loss OP .

YouokHun · 01/05/2021 00:47

Thank you all for your thoughts and condolences, I really appreciate it. I don’t want to ask him back of course, on the other hand his contract was to replace a non working fan with a working fan which effectively he hasn’t done as the replacement trips the lights. So I feel like my DM has paid him £300 for nothing and may have to pay someone else who knows how much to put it right, whereas he should be making good. He was recommended by friends and is properly qualified so I feel like it’s not beyond his capabilities (even though he needs a personality transplant).

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LittleMissTeacup · 01/05/2021 08:59

I’d get another electrician in, ask the new one to put written notes of what has caused the tripping with the invoice and then, if it was caused by 1st electrician, send the invoice to him and push back hard saying you expect him to pay up to resolve his poor work.
It sounds like he has seen an opportunity and sadly, dodgy people are everywhere.
There are many wonderful electricians out there, please just stop using this one and find another.

HaveringWavering · 01/05/2021 09:21

Sorry for your loss. Regardless of the contractual issues you need to draw a line under this and sever contact with this man. His attitude is causing stress at a terrible time and it is worth losing some money to get shit of him. The suggestion upthread re applying the £80 for the switch issue to the latest visit is a good one.

On what basis did he ask where your father was when he visited after his death? That is shocking.

HaveringWavering · 01/05/2021 09:22

Get shot!

Wellpark · 01/05/2021 09:27

What shamoo said sounds good. What an absolutely horrible man though!

ElsieMc · 01/05/2021 09:45

What a vile man. Sever all contact, get another electrician and explain the situation. There are still good people out there. Once well rid, leave a review that will avoid other vulnerable, elderly people being treated so shoddily by this inept man.

smellysmoke · 01/05/2021 09:47

find another electrician. leave an honest review on check a trade for this horrible one

Brefugee · 01/05/2021 09:51

I'm very sorry for your loss.

If you can, cut your losses and get a different electrician in.

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