Few sips of red wine when pregnant?

[ShutUpAlex]

Did anybody have small amounts of wine when pregnant? I know a lot of people have one small glass a week, but I have found that 3 or 4 sips of red wine in the evening makes my morning sickness just completely vanish! However, those sips added up each day (or at least until the morning sickness is gone) may add up more than what I think.

Would I be u reasonable to do this?
Did anyone else find this helped? I’ve tried sickness bands, ginger everything etc but can’t shift the nausea.

Nope. Not worth It.

@PicaK

I drank in my pregnancy because I didn't know any better - just the tiny amounts people are reassuring themselves is OK.

I didn't realise that alcohol passes thru to the baby (in the way it doesn't when you are breast feeding) and it's there in the baby's system.
So it's only a tiny bit, so it's only a negligible effect... But who are you to intentionally alter your baby's development even slightly?
All these "it didn't affect mine" are wrong. They mean their child falls within the broad band of normal - and they're not facing the challenge of a kid with alcohol related SEN.
But within that band then yes child has been shifted in his path. Microscopically perhaps. Because the alcohol passes through.
Drink the wine if you want - but don't claim this nill effect thing. You have no proof.

Do you also have this attitude to medicine, non-organic food, pesticides, pollution, caffeine? And also believe in women not over a certain age or BMI being pregnant? They all have risks and can affect the fetal development.

@PicaK ^ what @ShirleyPhallus said. God forbid hope you never get caught out and have to drink from a plastic bottle gasp

I don't like wine so might not help, but could you get hold of some mulled wine and kind of 'cook' the alcohol out of your worried?

So did it help again this evening OP? I'm interested to know if it was a coincidence or if it really helps.

If a few sips of wine helped my morning sickness, I would definitely have done it. It's a tiny amount!

I wouldn't do it.

[quote ShutUpAlex]@GreyhoundG1rl lol says the one who just goes round trolling on every post. I’ve never seen a serious answer out of you.

Yes mummt martyrs, because the only posters who have advised against it have been hysterical, haven’t provided any reasonable reason as to why a few sips of wine could do any damage and have just been rude and insulting which say a lot more about the type of person they are than it does me.

The posters who have said a few sips won’t hurt have been calm and some been provided some literature on the subject. So yea, I’ve decided a few sips of wine a few evenings a week is going to be ok for me personally.[/quote]

My word - selective reasoning doesn't even begin to cover it.

Seeing as the "don't drink wine" crew didn't provide enough "evidence..

From the NHS page:

Drinking alcohol while pregnant

Experts are still unsure exactly how much – if any – alcohol is completely safe for you to have while you're pregnant, so the safest approach is not to drink at all while you're expecting.

Is it safe to drink alcohol when pregnant?

The Chief Medical Officers for the UK recommend that if you're pregnant or planning to become pregnant, the safest approach is not to drink alcohol at all to keep risks to your baby to a minimum.

a little wine is probably ok. I’d actually recommend another Emily Oster book - crib sheet - that covers the stats.

but despite that, everything you drink does pass through to baby via your placenta and so it’s a personal choice as to whether you can forgive yourself if anything untoward ever happens.

if you are regularly drinking to manage your sickness - that will add up and you obviously feel like the alcohol is having a physical impact on your body - and so it’s probably having an impact on baby too?

i was much less fussed about having a glass when breastfeeding.

@Somethingsnappy it did! As soon as it hit my stomach the nausea disappeared. Miracle.

I think I would do it. i just wouldn't tell Mumsnet

Just crack on, you're going to get the usual pearl clutching, 'won't somebody think of the widdle innocent BABY' crap from the usual suspects on here. I had the occasional sip in the last two trimesters as well as a couple of weak Bucks Fizzes at New Year's. My son is as bright as a button. All this judging of other women is tiresome.

@EmmaOvary

Just crack on, you're going to get the usual pearl clutching, 'won't somebody think of the widdle innocent BABY' crap from the usual suspects on here. I had the occasional sip in the last two trimesters as well as a couple of weak Bucks Fizzes at New Year's. My son is as bright as a button. All this judging of other women is tiresome.

it’s not judging - OP asked for our opinion and so we have given it.

ultimately she can do what she wants based on her view of risk.

also drinking in first trimester (which I assume OP is in given her nausea) is different to drinking in final two.

My first pregnancy I was completely tee total. This time around once I hit the second trimester I have allowed myself one small glass of wine or a weak G&T only on weekend evenings. In some European countries it is not uncommon for women to have wine with meals when pregnant. When asked by my consultant and another dr I was honest about having two drinks a week, both said this wasn't something they were concerned about. One even said 2-3 units a day (so a glass of wine) is very unlikely to cause harm. I'm not going to say I think it's healthy to drink alcohol when pregnant, as I don't, but I also believe in the right to make an informed decision. There can't be research into a "safe" level of alcohol to consume when pregnant for obvious reasons so the standard is to recommend none at all. Equally having looked at what research there is I also couldn't find anything that suggests that a small amount twice a week is considered actively harmful either.

also drinking in first trimester (which I assume OP is in given her nausea) is different to drinking in final two.

No. Second.

@SummerHouse

I think I would do it. i just wouldn't tell Mumsnet

It's funny isn't it? Online forums should be a place where people can talk about things we can't say in real life, yet we feel we musn't tell Mumsnet some things!

Do you also have this attitude to medicine, non-organic food, pesticides, pollution, caffeine? And also believe in women not over a certain age or BMI being pregnant? They all have risks and can affect the fetal development.

That's a daft argument. Of course you minimise your exposure as far as is reasonable. Eat well, don't smoke or drink, avoid known toxins, exercise and stay healthy.

And yes I thought of all those things in pregnancy. I only use BPA and phthalate free plastic containers. My drink bottle is glass.

I buy organic fruit and veg where I can afford it anyway and grow a lot, but in pregnancy did that far more. I only use the chemical free cleaners in my house.

Absolutely would not have had caffeine in pregnancy. Really sensible about refined sugars, ate wholegrains, as much from scratch cooking as possible. 7 fruit and veg a day.

Organic fruit and veg maybe out if the reach of some budgets but the rest is all easy to do. I honestly I do think you should be a reasonable weight and eat really well in pregnancy.

Whatever goes in your body is what feeds your baby. If you wouldn't want them to eat that as a weaning baby and toddler then don't feed it them as a foetus.

You get one shot at growing them and it only takes a few months, why not just give it your all for that time?

If COVID-19 hadn't put a stop to the wine I'd be taking communion at least once, but probably three times a week. I've had a few sips throughout pregnancy and 2 half glasses. However, only you can make that call.

OP this is 100 percent fine, every single person who understands science agrees. How on Earth is a few sips going to make your blood alcohol level reach anything like what is needed to get ANYWHERE near the baby?

Orange juice is 0.05 percent alcohol you'd get more drinking a couple of pints of that!

And yes, I did this. And yes DD is very bright, probably because she's been raised in an environment of logic and reason rather misogynistic guilt....

@Countrygirl2021 well good for you, but some women are so sick that the only thing they can face eating is beige. I haven’t eaten a vegetable other than peas in about 2 months.

Do you also have this attitude to medicine, non-organic food, pesticides, pollution, caffeine? And also believe in women not over a certain age or BMI being pregnant? They all have risks and can affect the fetal development.

Yes that's my point. There are risks and you might choose to take them - but you don't refute the fact they exist. And whilst you can't control eg pollution and bmi/age are complicated - alcohol is pretty easy to avoid.
Fwiw no I didn't take any medicine while I was pregnant. But I like I said,, I did have the odd couple of tiny glasses of wine because I didn't know any better at the time.
But I also now parent an adopted child with fasd. So I'm rabidly anti alcohol in pregnancy.

Few sips of wine seems massively unlikely to cause issues, but separately to that, in your position I’d also go back to GP and press them on prescribing you something. Some of the antiemetics absolutely can help nausea.

I found it helps if you can be very very clear just how much it’s limiting your ability to eat, sleep, do things like work/care for older children, and that it’s gone on past 12 weeks and isn’t improving.

Whatever goes in your body is what feeds your baby. If you wouldn't want them to eat that as a weaning baby and toddler then don't feed it them as a foetus.

Yeah, that was my aspiration going into pregnancy the first time too. Then I got really sick and my baby was built from a diet of cherry tomatoes, Refreshers and full-sugar Coke. The consultant was not only very reassuring about this but suggested I try wine gums (My health was wrecked for ages from that pregnancy, but the baby was totally fine.)

Personally I’d not be doing a shot of red wine daily. And I think it’s a slippery slope. You’re only pregnant for a few months and that alcohol is being fed to your baby, but if you need to drink daily to get through it then I think you need to speak to your doctor.

Fed to your baby. Yeh like 0.02% which will literally do bugger all.

Some people really need to look at how blood alcohol levels work.

Personally I’d not be doing a shot of red wine daily. And I think it’s a slippery slope. You’re only pregnant for a few months and that alcohol is being fed to your baby, but if you need to drink daily to get through it then I think you need to speak to your doctor.

I think you are misrepresenting what OP is saying.

Yes and I think "shot" was a bit of a joke that's now being taken out of context and makes it sound bad.