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Would you spend most of your time caring for an elderly parent?

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ImaHogg · 27/04/2021 09:29

I have a real dilemma in my life right now, I am probably digging myself a giant hole and potentially causing myself future issues.
I’m 48, married with a 13 and 15 year old and work very part time hours.
I am and have always been very close to my parents. They live around the corner from me. Dad is 80 this year and mum is 78.
Dad is in good health and up till last year was riding a motorcycle. My mum has Alzheimer’s, she was diagnosed 3 years ago and as is the nature with this wicked disease, she is getting steadily worse. She is also in constant pain with osteoporosis.
My dad does not cope well at all, he gets so angry with the diagnosis and takes it out on mum as though she is forgetting on purpose! He says his life is over and he feels trapped and can not even go down the shed on his own. He does the cooking and washing up but really doesn’t do any other housework. He thinks if he keeps badgering my mum to do it she will suddenly ‘remember’, which obviously won’t happen, so subsequently things build up, laundry doesn’t get done, bed sheets go unchanged etc. Even mums hair doesn’t get washed regularly (something my sister and I are going to have to do from now on in).
I spend most of my spare time helping out. Every week I take mum out to give dad breaks, I arrange all her hospital and gp appointments and take her to most of these, I order mums meds and collect them too, I have arranged for her to go to a day centre once a week and I take her there and collect her (although she hates it so will probably cancel it soon!). I have organised financial things for them ie mum now gets attendance allowance and dad council tax reductions etc.
I go round 6 days a week.
My sister only goes once a week, she has no children but works full time, she will do some cleaning but that’s it as she says she is too busy (she’s home most days at 4pm!). She too lives nearby.
Obviously with this disease things will start to get much, much worse and I can already see changes, mum is very depressed and just sits in the living room a lot of the time, she often looks vacant and her short term memory is shot to pieces, she cries a lot. She does perk up when I take her out for a drive etc but goes downhill once she is at home.
I appreciate living with a dementia patient is bloody tough going but don’t think my dad helps as he puts her down and tries to make her do things which the Alzheimer’s just won’t let her do.
I can’t arrange for a professional carer yet as my mum is still aware of things and says she does not want a carer or a stranger in her home, it makes her feel useless.
I am so stressed with it all and find the burden of caring/worrying about my parents welfare 24/7 overwhelming. It feels like caring for children.
To add extra woes, my dh says I am doing too much and we are starting to have heated discussions about it. He thinks my dad is being very selfish expecting me to always be there to do so much and that he should be doing a lot of it himself (ie the laundry, changing bed sheets and washing mums hair etc) but I know he won’t do it so I feel stuck between a rock and hard place, although I admit I wouldn’t want to put this burden on my own dc.
It also pisses off dh that dad doesn’t offer me any money for the help I do even though he knows I struggle a little financially. Mum and dad are very financially comfortable so that does sting a little tbh.
I am concerned how much I could take long term as I already suffer from anxiety and depression. I can see as the disease takes hold I am going to have to help more and more. This will have an huge impact on my life and my dh/children’s too.
AIBU to give up so much of my time and energy looking after my parent? Would you do the same?

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randomer · 28/04/2021 19:59

@Chanjer, May I respectfully suggest you get something in place earlier rather than later?

PerspicaciousGreen · 28/04/2021 19:59

Lol, we keep effing trying but keep ending up back in London due to various at-the-time compelling reasons related to my husband's work. The Outer Hebrides plan has been pushed out to January 2023, and if we can't do it then I'll bloody well move by myself!

Conversely, I'm sad that I think we're missing the window for my grandmother to move in with us. I think by 2023 she'll either be dead or be more trouble than we could manage (in a loving way!) It would have been a privilege for me to spend a few years looking after her.

She lives in a sheltered flat on her own and she's 93. She's had various health issues and is declining mentally but still lives by herself with a carer doing her shopping and coming in for half an hour a day. I think Granny still does all her own cleaning and laundry and she "cooks" for herself too (cereal, tinned soup or ready meals - but she's always hated cooking!) The great thing about a miscellaneous "carer" has been the flexibility to ask for help with what she needs - taking to appointments, doing shopping, posting letters, helping her pay bills... And she's upped her visits and her hours over the years as she's needed more. But I think most days the carer spends half the time having a cup of tea and playing cards, and I'm very glad she has near-daily company! (She lives far away) It's enabled her to stay independent-ish for a long long time (she'd hate a home - unlike my great aunt who bloody loved having a roomful of people to natter to all the time!) But these days you can hire out anything, so you can really choose to do the bits that YOU want to do, and hopefully facilitate hiring out the rest when they come round to the idea.

VettiyaIruken · 28/04/2021 20:02

No, I wouldn't step in.
I'd get her into a home and away from an abusive environment.
She needs to be cared for by people who understand and are experienced.

Chanjer · 28/04/2021 20:10

May I respectfully suggest you get something in place earlier rather than later?

Noted, it is something I think about

LittleOwl153 · 28/04/2021 20:14

I think the money would annoy me. Look at it this way, if your mum needs a nursing home her half of the money will be gone. Your dad will retain his and the home that he lives in. Unless he also requires a nursing home it is likely that at least the house will become your inheritance. How will you feel if he leaves half of that to your sister who hasn't done much, or worse the whole lot to the cats home, when you have given up years of your life to sort them out? I'm not saying you should only do it for money - but to have you running around after them in excess of the hours of a full time job and pay nothing when they have all that and you are struggling is wrong.

Could your husband be concerned that once you do go back to work that you will not be able to do everything and that you will end up giving up your job? Does your household ideally need you to up your hours if you can after furlough?

PerspicaciousGreen · 28/04/2021 20:21

@LittleOwl153 On a slight tangent, my aunt cared for my other grandmother for many years while my father and uncle lived far away. The will split everything equally. With no drama, my father and uncle agreed with each other to sign over a significant percentage of their inheritances (objective monetary value wasn't massive but still) over to my aunt in thanks for everything she'd done for their mother. I really respect them for that.

Dontbeme · 28/04/2021 20:22

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Lollypop4 · 28/04/2021 20:27

Op, I've sent you a message and hope you get it ( never sent one on here before!)

ImaHogg · 28/04/2021 20:28

Dontbeme I meant brother and sil (as in bil and sil) ie dh’s brother and his wife!

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ImaHogg · 28/04/2021 20:31

Thanks Lollypop4

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cutebutscary · 28/04/2021 20:32

As someone coming from a similar position , my advice is , they don't get a choice about carers , my gran told mum she wouldn't have carers for years , put a massive strain on me and mum caring for her , then mum died suddenly and unexpectedly during lockdown. I'm left caring for my gran, but with carers coming three times a day to help out which she bloody LOVES after years of tears and tantrums from her every time me and mum bought it up with her , I also have my own health issues and she behaves unreasonably , and selfishly . I think her behaviour contributed somewhat to my mums death as it was all just too much. Your dad doesn't want to care for your mum and is feeling angry and resentful , but him expecting you to step up and do it instead is totally unreasonable . Your children and your husband are your number one priority in all of this and they don't deserve a frazzled stressed out mum with not enough hours in the day for them. I think you need to have a long honest ( difficult ) talk with your dad , then step back a bit . While you are running round like a headless chicken they won't consider outside help as they don't need to , but you lady, are heading for a breakdown . I should know . Protect your own health as well! Us carers always put our own needs at the bottom of a long list of priorities, but I really do know how stressful this family situation feels. You will totally be doing the right thing ( even for them ) by stepping back a bit Thanks

ImaHogg · 28/04/2021 20:37

@cutebutscary

As someone coming from a similar position , my advice is , they don't get a choice about carers , my gran told mum she wouldn't have carers for years , put a massive strain on me and mum caring for her , then mum died suddenly and unexpectedly during lockdown. I'm left caring for my gran, but with carers coming three times a day to help out which she bloody LOVES after years of tears and tantrums from her every time me and mum bought it up with her , I also have my own health issues and she behaves unreasonably , and selfishly . I think her behaviour contributed somewhat to my mums death as it was all just too much. Your dad doesn't want to care for your mum and is feeling angry and resentful , but him expecting you to step up and do it instead is totally unreasonable . Your children and your husband are your number one priority in all of this and they don't deserve a frazzled stressed out mum with not enough hours in the day for them. I think you need to have a long honest ( difficult ) talk with your dad , then step back a bit . While you are running round like a headless chicken they won't consider outside help as they don't need to , but you lady, are heading for a breakdown . I should know . Protect your own health as well! Us carers always put our own needs at the bottom of a long list of priorities, but I really do know how stressful this family situation feels. You will totally be doing the right thing ( even for them ) by stepping back a bit Thanks
Everything you say is totally right. Sorry for your loss, life can be so crap and throws us such shitty curveballs at times!
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RoseMartha · 28/04/2021 20:39

Sending a hug because I am struggling with my elderly parents and mum has dementia.

My sibling helps out but we are drowning in it because of juggling work and children with special needs.

My parents also dont want help but really need it. They go to a day centre a couple of times a week but it is not enough support.

Adult social care rang this week after I contacted GP.

Maybe you can try them and also does your mum have a social worker they might help too. We are so busy juggling my parents I forget to call the sw tbh.

I more or less could have written this myself. My sibling and I are at breaking point too. 🤗🤗🤗

Thinking of you.

caringcarer · 28/04/2021 20:45

I moved back home to my Mum's house when she was given approximately 6 months to live. She lived 200 miles away from me. My DC were almost adult youngest son 17 and doing A level. My dh was very good and took over household whilst I cared for Mum. I have 4 sisters. They all helped care for Mum we had a rota with 2 sisters on days 2 on nights and 1 sister shopping and sleeping. Even with 5 sisters it was very hard work and more importantly emotionally draining.

Would it be possible to get a cleaner in at same time you take your Mum out for a drive? She won't notice house looks cleaner when she returns. I have a cleaner who changes sheets once a week, vaccines, steam mops floors and cleans top of cooker and worktops and damp dusts. Use the attendance allowance you buy help on your parents home. That is what it is for. Ask your sister if she can come twice a week.

All I can tell you is I have never ever regretted caring for my Mum. Even when she was at her worst and seeing her so I'll made me cry. That said your children are younger, your Mum will probably live longer possibly many more years, and you only have one sister to help you and your DH does not sound as supportive as mine was.

Do what you can, ask your sister for a little more help and buy in as much help as you can get without your Mum realising. That way when you go over you can chat to your Mum and spend quality time with.het rather than rushing about doing housework.

stackemhigh · 28/04/2021 20:47

YANBU, he needs to pay for carers, this isn’t sustainable.

caringcarer · 28/04/2021 20:52

At least order in some of those meals you just pop into the microwave.

cutebutscary · 28/04/2021 20:53

Thank you OP . Yes it's been shockingly shit . I gave gran no choice in having carers in the end and after all the emotional blackmail she could pile on me to prevent it , I stood firm and it works wonderfully . Another benefit you probably havnt thought about is that having carers in to support them means that you get to spend QUALITY time with your parents and start to enjoy their company again, I was at the point where I was wishing Harold shipman would pay gran a visit Wink your relationship with them will be so much better xx

Miasicarisatia · 28/04/2021 20:54

She’s off enjoying her own retirement now, she won’t be ruining mine by living on the same plot!!!
this is how I see it, my parents had a retirement full of holidays and no obligations, I'm not letting them blight my golden years
it's me first all the way now

Saz12 · 28/04/2021 21:38

I’m early 40’s, have primary-school ages DC, work part time, and my (widowed) DF has dementia. He is now in a Care Home. It’s brutal (not the Home, the whole situation).

Whatever you do it isn’t ever enough. WHATEVER you do.

So you need to be tough with boundaries, and ignore the ignorant twats who are “shocked you’d put him in an institution”, having never experienced the sheer appalling horror of Alzheimers. Nod, smile, ignore, and try not to cry later.

Get your mum out of the house (use a reliable taxi company and be briskly assertive that your Mum is going. Get your Dad on side: a day off for him, think up some stuff he’s likely to want to do when your Mum is out - cricket on tv, garden, read, whatever). Aim for at least 2 days a week as soon as Covid restrictions allow. Try to find a Care Home who do daily respite, they’ll be good at keeping your Mum occupied and reassured. On one of those days, get a cleaner into their house to clean and do laundry (assuming your mum won’t accept it otherwise). Tell your Dad this has to happen as you can’t afford to take more time off work to do it for them. Potentially find a “befriender” to visit your Dad on one of those days? Male company always worked for my DF.

Contact adult social services and TELL them they need to asses your parents needs as they aren’t safe. They might be shitty to you and demand to know why you’re not doing it anymore. Point out you have a family and carers allowance isn’t enough to pay your bills. DO NOT FEEL GUILTY. It’s not your parents fault and not is it yours. Be the squeaky wheel - phone for updates, get your parents GP on side, get other family members to call as well.

Your sister visits once a week, that’s fine. You could visit once a week too. If she has “suggestions” then nod, tell her what a great idea they are, and ask her when SHE is going to do it. My sister lives overseas and was fabulous at coming up with things I could do for Dad. Nod, smile, ignore and try not to cry afterwards.

ImaHogg · 28/04/2021 22:11

RoseMartha, caringcarer, Saz12 Flowers
Saz12 I didn’t know care homes offer daily respite, thank you I will look into that.

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tiredmum2468 · 28/04/2021 22:23

@ImaHogg
I'm so sorry this sounds very stressful

I'd employ a carer/personal assistant using their attendance allowance to help support them both but as people have suggested look into respite care for your Mum.

Would they be better in sheltered accommodation do you think?

1980tastic · 28/04/2021 22:33

I was the child in this situation and I'm sorry op but my teen years being dominated by first 1 grandparent then the other needing physical care and later cognitive deterioration, it pretty much broke my family.

My mum (the main carer) no longer speaks to her siblings because she expected them to drop work, their own children etc to go in to help...it was too much. It's not responsible to keep stepping in to fix a worsening situation because it will not get better.

In our case it was years of my childhood being dominated by elderly care. I feel extremely resentful even now.

If there's money to pay for carers, that's the solution if they are able to continue living independently.

But families seem to think "running a family member into the ground, putting their life on hold" is a valid option. It doesn't have to be all or nothing. There's a reasonable boundary in-between.

Tigertigertigertiger · 28/04/2021 22:36

I’d do the same.
You’re a good person x

CaptainAwkward · 28/04/2021 23:00

@Tigertigertigertiger

I’d do the same. You’re a good person x
How will that help when her children need her and her running herself ragged only serves to paper over the cracks of her DP’s situation? Don’t be so patronising.
Ravenspeckingearly · 28/04/2021 23:09

Everything that @Saz12 says.

I’m a HCP. Dementia destroys families if you let it. You need to look after yourself followed by your children OP. Once you are knackered everything falls apart. Flowers