AIBU to ask my LL to remove bed?

[Featherbirds]

So, I moved into a furnished property last week but we've haven't yet slept in there because I'm still sorting out things from my last home.

When I visited the second time, I realised that the bed was loose and the mattress was too big for the bed - the frame is longer than the mattress by 2 inches. We know that there were a previous tenant so they may have used it a lot and loosened it but it's definitely not us since we've not slept a night in there.

The bed itself is fairly old anyway and too low for my mother who is an elderly woman - who's to be sleeping on the bed.I told my landlord about it being too low but he just told me to buy bed raisers from amazon instead.

Would it be unreasonable for me to ask the LL to simply get rid of the bed since it's loose and hazardous for my mother? She can easily hurt herself between the headframe and where the mattress doesn't meet?

I would be happy to just get myself a new bed and have that as my responsibility instead.

You're NBU, but I would say, are you able to remove the bed frame & mattress please as I'd like to buy a new one, or are you happy for me to get rid of it for you? I'd also make sure you have it in writing.

Not unreasonable to ask, they’re not unreasonable to say no, though – what happens at the end of your tenancy when you take your bed with you and they don’t have one?

In previous rentals I’ve dismantled the shit bedframe and stored the pieces under my own decent bedframe, got a new mattress and chucked the old out, knowing that replacing the mattress is the tax I’m paying on ensuring my own comfort, could you do something similar?

I could do something similar but the frame is a queen size and my mum would just be content with a double bed so the headframe wouldn't really fit under the new bed without it sticking out and becoming a hazard.

I'd be okay with getting rid of it myself really

I would certainly try it, the only issue would be that when you are moving on in the future your landlord then has the issue of buying another bed if they are continuing to let it furnished, which may be an expense they object to. (Assuming you take the bed you get with you?)

But they should reasonably expect to replace furniture every so often anyway.

There might also be issues of fire safety to consider and responsibility for upkeep of furniture ..it will differ for the furniture you bring yourself compared to that supplied by LL I think.

Is there any way to confirm the wear and tear? I read that is the basis of what the landlord needs to replace something.

It'd be cheaper for me to just get rid of it and replace it with a bed of my own. Considering the LL wouldn't need to bring a handyman and their costs to come to property etc. How should I put that across without me seeming like I just want to get rid of the bed because of a silly reason?

Are you planning on getting rid of the bed, buying a new bed of reasonable quality and then leaving that bed in the rented property when you move out - all your own effort & cost?

If that is the case the LL might be fine with it, otherwise I think you might struggle to convince them.

Surely the headboard would fit lengthways under the double bed? If you’re not allowed I mean

Take a video of the bed and explain the problems it will cause for your mum? Propose your solution as a way of overcoming the problem?

Gosh my tenants were pretty demanding (wanted wallpaper painted out etc) and I did it. Good rent (£500/week) so I didn't mind. It's not unreasonable to ask for a properly fitting mattress to bed, but you should have negotiated this before you took the tenancy.

@Changingwiththetimes

Gosh my tenants were pretty demanding (wanted wallpaper painted out etc) and I did it. Good rent (£500/week) so I didn't mind. It's not unreasonable to ask for a properly fitting mattress to bed, but you should have negotiated this before you took the tenancy.

I do accept that I should have. Though looking back, the letting agents led me to believe the landlord would be okay with replacing suitable furniture until I learnt he wasn't and didn't know what I was talking about. By which I signed the agreement.

I don't really want to be demanding, the house is lovely but it's just that bed. I would take it when I leave though but I don't suspect I'll leave for a few years.

I'll email in the morning

So you want to get rid of the landlords bed, and not replace it?

I can’t see how this is beneficial to the landlord at all. He will have the hassle of replacing the bed at the end of the tenancy.

If you want him to say yes, you’ll have to find a way to improve what you are offering in exchange.

The trouble with furnished accommodation is that you can't get rid of the landlord's furnishings unless you are replacing them with something suitable (and even then you should ask). So it's probably fine to replace the bed but you'll have to leave it there unless you arrange/pay to store the landlord's stuff so it can be reinstalled.

Someone in my house share at uni turned her nose up at the bed and curtains in her room. She got her dad to dispose of them and install her own. When she took them at the end of the tenancy the landlord was furious and took the replacement value out of her deposit.

@BullOx

So you want to get rid of the landlords bed, and not replace it?

I can’t see how this is beneficial to the landlord at all. He will have the hassle of replacing the bed at the end of the tenancy.

If you want him to say yes, you’ll have to find a way to improve what you are offering in exchange.

It's loose and suffering from wear and tear anyway. He'd have to replace it anyway, just not now.

Can buy foam pad to infill the gap with matress either a block cut to size or something like this
www.amazon.co.uk/SnugStop-Bed-Wedge-Mattress-King/dp/B07RF2YQMH?tag=mumsnetforu03-21

However if the frame is wobbly and doesn't just need the fixings tightening up, It seems reasonable to ask if could be replaced or buy own & it be stored away. I stored previous frame bed under another lengthways, if doesn't fit under that bed is perhaps somewhere else it could be hidden.