Princess Anne the only female behind the hearse

[jeanne16]

While the funeral was beautiful, I couldn’t help feeling annoyed that Princess Anne was the only female to walk behind the hearse. Surely all the grandchildren could have been included. Instead we see Beatrice, Eugenie and Zara tottering along on high heels. It would have been so much better to see them take an equal place with the men.

Technically, in terms of lineage, is Camilla not the most senior female with Kate being second and Princess Charlotte being third?

Op, your post is a great example of a feminist being paranoid and unbelievably cruel to other women. Two of the women you want to have marched recently gave birth. Zara is only three weeks on. Catch yourself on.

@TheOneWithTheBigNose

I think Zara Tindall should have been one of those walking behind the coffin

I really wouldn’t have wanted to do that walk in front of millions at 3 weeks post giving birth.

I don't think that I had washed for days 3 weeks post partum and had had about 10 hours sleep in 3 weeks! Heels, coffins, walking, cameras, media. Dear me no.

Maybe it should have been opened up to a public vote? ‘Who would you like to see walking behind Prince Phillip’s coffin’? With a phone number for each royal? Then everyone who cared could have had some input.

@AbsolutelyPatsy

Anne was wearing her medals.

i dont think beatrice, zara or eugenie did any military duty.

plus i think it is then men who walk, and Anne, because she does, she is a hard walker!

It's not a requirement to have done military duty to walk. Neither Earl Snowdon nor Peter Philips have served in the military

very surprised folk think Z&E are such delicate flowers.

So cruel. So now you're a delicate flower if you'd prefer not to leak through while mourning your grandfather in front of millions.

Women do not exist to be used as pawns for bitter 'feminists'.

@Pupster21

Eugenie also had a C-section due to her scoliosis.

I didn't know that. I don't think I could stand straight 3 weeks after my c section.

It’s not “delicate” to bleed after birth FFS

@Mybestestfriend

very surprised folk think Z&E are such delicate flowers.

So cruel. So now you're a delicate flower if you'd prefer not to leak through while mourning your grandfather in front of millions.

Women do not exist to be used as pawns for bitter 'feminists'.

Exactly

I couldn’t believe the other thread yesterday criticising B and E for not wearing black tights and comments about how E and Z were obviously not exclusively BF

Why women have to be so bloody awful about other women especially here where they are grieving and 2 have just recently had babies is beyond me.

Has anyone considered that perhaps the girls didn't WANT to walk in the procession? Maybe it was just too much for them to contemplate? I think Lady Louise and Viscount Severn were really too young to do so (17 and 11?).

in that case, if it is not military based, it is male based, and our hard walking Anne joining in, as per usual.

The only unusual aspect I thought was that everyone who walked was blood relative, senior royal, or older grandchild. Sir Tim Lawrence was the exception.

Prince of Wales and his siblings, including Ann, who I imagine in non covid times would have sat with The Queen.

Peter Phillips, eldest grandchild
William and Harry the PoW's sons
Earl Snowdon, Princess Margaret's eldest and only son

I think to have included Beatrice, Eugenie, Zara, etc, would have risked it turning into a fashion parade - already their jewellery has been analysed along with the tights and the heels.

very surprised folk think Z&E are such delicate flowers

Delicate flowers? I had three very straightforward births, with gas and air.
3 weeks post partum with each I was still in pain, bleeding and leaking breast milk. Nothing to do with being ‘delicate’, everything to do with my body having just been through something major.

@MagicSummer

Has anyone considered that perhaps the girls didn't WANT to walk in the procession? Maybe it was just too much for them to contemplate? I think Lady Louise and Viscount Severn were really too young to do so (17 and 11?).

So pretty much the same ages - and older - than W & H were when made to walk behind their mother’s coffin.

Fucking barbaric that was. I get Royal ‘duty’ in the face of all personal hardship but that was beyond the pale. Would love to know who insisted on that but it’s never been officially disclosed has it? Harry’s alluded to what a fucking awful request it was and his displeasure towards whoever made it, but I’m sure names were never named.

Annoyed?

Zara and Eugenie have just had babies and for I think you'll find that the men walked as they are the blood royals. Beatrice wouldn't have walked on her own and I can't think of any other female blood royals to walk. There's really no need to be annoyed. This is either complete protocol or what the Queen wanted and therefore it is correct. Her husband's funeral after all.

ZARa and Eugenia have just had babies, Zara just 3 weeks ago. Zara’s husband had to help her as she stepped down from the pew anyway. (Ridiculous shoes) Having Beatrice walk without Eugenie and Zara would have stood out more.

I thought it was particularly moving that the members of his household walked immediately behind his family . It showed how much respect he had for the people who worked for him.

@lljkk

er, from what I've read Eugenie gave birth almost 2 months ago Zara had her 3rd child (healthy full term) so quickly (weeks ago) that they were born on the bathroom floor.

I would be bemused if I were either Z or E & people were saying "Oh you poor thing you can't possibly stand around or walk 10 minutes outdoors, you only just gave birth!" I don't care where they walked, but very surprised folk think Z&E are such delicate flowers.

and as for "they are just an ordinary family in their grief", Pfffffttt!! Yeah we all have televised funerals for our loved ones (goldfish bowl!) with marching military bands and grand grounds and long commenting threads on our facial expressions in social media etc. Every family funeral I've been to has been just like that.

Gosh what’s wrong with you? Such a mysogynistic comment attacking the women. I spent a month in hospital after having my daughter and I couldn’t have done that walk. Their medical iconditions are unknown, just because they are home and were released immediately, doesn’t mean they are fully recovered, either one of them, or noth, could struggle to walk any distance, there could be episiotomy issues, prolapses. You’ve no idea.

When you start attacking women attending their grandfathers funeral becayse they don’t behave the way you personally deem appropriate then you need to have a think.

it was only the family that went to the funeral,
you couldnt have them all in the procession!

the family and a close friend

God you can't have it both ways. If you accept that the ridiculous royal lifestyle and fanfare are paid for by the public you have to therefore allow it to be open to criticism. Yesterday probably costs hundred of thousands pounds of our taxes. It could have paid for all the funerals of every who died this month.

@Isthereaduckinthehouse

Who were the pall bearers? I think the reason for the male element was the lineage. Their place in line to the throne relative to their parent. Harry included as he's son of future king. Anne's son as he's the first born of her family. That said, Edward's first born wasn't there, so you do have a point now that I think of it. Nor was Beatrice or Eugenie (not sure which is eldest). Yes it was in fact male dominated for some reason. I can't really see rhyme nor reason to it.

Edward’s ‘first born’ is only seventeen and the royals are still dealing with the fallout from the last time they made children walk in a funeral procession.

A close friend who married Lord Mountbatten's grandson and 24 hours after the funeral that's where it needs to be left @AbsolutelyPatsy

I think it probably was the list I would've guessed if I'd bothered thinking about it. It's traditionally male, and that loosely continues today, although Anne has broken the tradition before. I doubt any of the female granddaughters wanted to walk they would've been refused.

Wrt Zara and Eugenie - among my friends who had quick deliveries, they seem to have resulted in the hardest recoveries. And I couldn't have done the walk both ways 6 weeks post c section after either of mine without a lot of discomfort.

@AbsolutelyPatsy

the family and a close friend

The Countess of Mountbatten is a relation through marriage, and was representing the Mountbatten relations (her husband’s aunt is Philip’s cousin and they and the countess’ late MIL were brought up almost like siblings)