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To report this man to his probation officer?

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JamesMiddletonsMarshmallows · 13/04/2021 22:18

I rent out a property and I also manage the property next door for a friend/old neighbour who lives at the other end of the country - I'm not a letting agent, I just do it as a favour as I manage my own too.

I showed potential tenants around my friend's house a few months ago and after reporting back she initially chose a guy who could move in quickly and had references. However the character reference he sent me was from his probation officer - when I googled, he'd recently come out of prison for attacking and stalking his ex girlfriend. At this point, no contract had been signed and no money exchanged hands so my friend decided she didn't want a violent man in her house in case he damaged it. By coincidence, an inspection found that there were serious plumbing issues, so I said to the potential tenant that the landlord couldn't offer him the lease at the moment due to repairs (not great not telling the whole truth I know but I didn't feel safe/right telling him it's also because he's violent) and the property was no longer available but if anything changed I'd be in touch.

He messaged a few times since and I just said the property isn't available and repair work was ongoing.

Repairs were finished a month ago and my friend rented it out to her niece, I wasn't involved in finding anyone.

Today he walked past the house and saw someone was obviously living there. He rang me and I was caught off guard and said sorry to let him down but that was the landlord's decision. It's all kicked off since.

Anyway tonight I've spent my evening asking local Facebook pages and groups to remove the picture of me with "scam landlord" warning. They obviously don't understand that I'm NOT the landlord!! Two men have also been down to the properties knocking on doors to find out who has lived there and for how long. This has freaked my tenant out - she suffers from severe anxiety and is now panicking. My friend's niece wasn't it, but according to my tenant they tried her back door which was thankfully locked. I've also had threats on my phone from the potential tenant's family members. My friend said at this point to pass on her number and explain she's the landlord, which I've done but they haven't contacted her.

I don't know if either of the men who went down to the houses were the potential tenant, and the Facebook posts didn't appear to be from him. But this has really pissed me off on several levels - I've been publicly accused of 'scamming money out of them' even though none exchanged hands and it's not even my property - I'm a teacher and this could have serious repercussions if anyone at work saw it. Luckily the posts were swiftly removed.

Even though it appears to be a smear campaign from slightly batshit members of this bloke's family rather than him, WIBU to get in touch with his probation officer to let them know what's going on? I just want it to stop.

OP posts:
JamesMiddletonsMarshmallows · 14/04/2021 10:21

Update: waiting for a call from his probation officer now. My tenant and the other tenant are safe, nothing happened through the night or this morning

OP posts:
StarsonaString · 14/04/2021 12:25

Great news OP.

Dizzy1234 · 14/04/2021 12:38

Update us OP, what a nightmare 💐

notapizzaeater · 14/04/2021 12:47

Bloody scary for everyone 🤬

Meruem · 14/04/2021 13:13

I was a PO for a long time. Despite what people think it isn't up to the individual PO if someone gets recalled to prison or not. It goes to a manager and then an area manager to be signed off.

My experience was that it was actually very difficult to get someone recalled. In the circumstances described above, there is no "proof" that it is the individual and of course he will deny being involved. I've seen cases where its 99% certain an individual has done something but, as they weren't arrested, I wasn't allowed to recall. Especially right now there will be pressure to keep people out of prison due to covid.

That being said, it definitely is worth speaking to the probation officer so at least they are aware. I second what others have said in that the police often didn't share information with us.

Tistheseason17 · 14/04/2021 13:52

Sounds like you have it in hand,OP. Ring doorbells for them are a good plan.

2bazookas · 14/04/2021 14:37

I'd contact the police (harassment complaint0 AND his probation officer.

FeatheredHope · 15/04/2021 15:37

Hope all is ok @JamesMiddletonsMarshmallows

Pompom2367 · 15/04/2021 16:08

Hope all is ok op this is so horrible for you all

Sn0tnose · 15/04/2021 17:12

Hope it all dies down very quickly for you and the tenants. All he’s achieved is proving that your friend was absolutely right to have concerns about him. God help the poor landlord who does decide to give him a chance.

user1495884673 · 15/04/2021 18:02

You don't need a "loophole", there are lots of exemptions to the data protection act and prevention or detection of crime is one of them.

FireflyRainbow · 15/04/2021 18:06

Call the police OP.

PrincessPea11 · 15/04/2021 18:11

You definitely did the right thing in reporting, OP. It's scary as this behaviour is so in line with his offences- harassing women- whether its him or people doing it on his behalf. He clearly hasn't learnt from his time in prison so reporting would actually benefit him too.

JustSleepAlready · 15/04/2021 18:14

Police.

Nonpayingdads · 15/04/2021 18:16

Awful man. Poor woman and child being linked to that

MNWorldisCrazy · 15/04/2021 19:17

@JamesMiddletonsMarshmallows How did it go with the PO?

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