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AIBU to think this is my fault?

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iliveinhope24 · 11/04/2021 22:50

Hello all,

Well, my friend wants nothing to do with me. The friendship has indeed ended. My own friends tell me that I am better off. But I'm not sure sure and I feel so guilty.

My friend and I have known each other for a little while. We had a very petty disagreement a few years ago and from them on she refused to speak to me. She contacted seven months later as something major has happened in her life and then we rekindled the friendship again. My friend has had quite a difficult year and I have been supporting her as best as I can. However, I have always felt that the friendship was one sided but at the same time I'm sad that our friendship has ended.

My issue with her is that, nearly every day, believe me, after work and when I've finished from uni, she would call me and our conversations will last two hours. It was my fault, I should have said to her "sorry, I have to go", but knowing her she would become upset and tell me to hold on and I will feel obliged to continue to listen to her. Most of the conversations, If not all of them, are all about her, her troubles, her family, her doctors appointments, her friends, her feelings, her thoughts. The minute I interject and mention anything that is going on in life, we would talk about it for 5 minutes, and then she would bring the conversations back to her.

But I thought, she's going through a hard time, I need to be there for her, I need to listen. But let me tell you Mumsnetters, it was draining me, I would finish the conversation and I would just want to go to sleep. It was affecting my mental state, my ability to function day to day. But this is entirely my fault, I should have been firmer and say "I'm really, really sorry, I have to go".

Moving on, during lockdown, because of what she was going through, and trying to support her, we formed a bubble... so I would spend most of my weekends going to visit her, see how she is. She would ask me to come and go for walks, so we would do that. But every time, I saw her, every occasion, we went out, she would talk about herself, what she ate, who she saw, her kids, her feelings, her arguments with people. The minute I will tell her something about myself, she would say "ohno- really?" And go back to talking about herself. But again, I thought she's going through a difficult time.. I need to listen etc.

This was going on for months and months, until my family members were telling me that they cannot get a hold of me, they cannot reach me, I'm becoming distant.Then I thought, you know what, this cannot continue, I need to be honest with her. So I planned to do this in one of our daily conversations but then whisky conversing with my friend, she told me that she decided to let go of one her friendships as that particularly friend was telling her that she doesn't make time for her, that she comes across self-centred, that she should take the time to see how she was doing. I'm not entirely sure what happened. But my friend didn't like what she had to say and decided to end that friendship.. because of that, I thought.. ohno if I tell her how I feel, she would end the friendship with me too and I kept my mouth shut.

One month goes by and I think to myself, this cannot continue. So whenever I was busy, I just wouldn't answer her calls, I would then text her "sorry, I'm in a middle of finishing an assignment, I will call you back". She would proceed to call again and then I'll pick up and say "Let me do x and I will quickly call you back". When she asked me to me during weekends, I will tell her that I could see her on another today or the following weekend as I will be going to see a family member (my sister). But I would text me friend daily to see if she was ok, call her often (but not everyday!) to see if she was well etc.

But, I noticed she was becoming distant, not texting, not calling as much as before, so I thought, ok maybe she realised that it was too much and was respecting my space. But a couple of days ago, she called me to say that I was becoming a bit distant and that I've been making up excuses not to come and see her that often anymore, and she wanted to know why. So I hit my tongue and told her the truth. I told her that, I want to support her as much as I can, but the daily conversations were becoming a bit much, that she would hardly ask how I was, when she did, the conversation would last 5 minutes, and that I wouldn't have time to do X, I also told her that it was getting to a point that I will spend most of the weekends hanging out with her, whereas I need to do XYZ and see how my family members were doing.

When I told her this, she was very very upset. She told me that I have been a fake friend, that why didn't I just tell her. I told her that I was worried that she would end the friendship (like she did last time). She began saying that I was just making excuses, that I have been secretly judging her behind her back, that I'm only interested to talk to her when she has bad news (Confused), that my advice I've given her over X, have been useless, that she doesn't want to talk to me and doesn't want me involved in her and her kids lives, and that it was me who wanted to go and see her and that she didn't force me to.

That's it. On one hand, I'm glad I told her how I feel. But on the other hand, I feel guilty. I wasn't sure if this was the right to tell her as I know she is going through some personal things. When speaking to my friends, they tell me that I am well rid. But why do I feel so bad? I'm sad the friendship has ended (again) and I don't think we can rekindle after this. What do you Mumsnetters think? Sorry about the long post.

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Aquamarine1029 · 11/04/2021 22:53

This woman is not your friend. You are her unpaid therapist and emotional dumping ground. It's good this relationship is over.

Ohthiscantbeit · 11/04/2021 22:59

Unfortunately in this kind of world we live in op, there are two kinds of people, givers and takers. Sadly it sounds as your friend has fallen into the latter. She will soon in time realise what a great friend that you have been. You can comfort yourself in knowing that you did the best that you could even sacrificing time with your family and other friends. Try not to let this sadness overwhelm you. But try and reflect on the good times that you had.

iliveinhope24 · 11/04/2021 23:00

@Aquamarine1029

This woman is not your friend. You are her unpaid therapist and emotional dumping ground. It's good this relationship is over.
But... funny to say. She has been a good friend to me in other ways. When I go to her house, she is very accommodating, if I need some advice, she would advise me on what I need to do. But that's about it. But I felt that I was the one only making the effort... I don't know... (sigh).
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iliveinhope24 · 11/04/2021 23:07

But have I been a fake friend? Am I in the wrong for not telling her sooner?

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Womencanlift · 11/04/2021 23:18

You have had a lucky escape. Put your effort and energy into friends and family who are interested in you as a person not just someone to offload on

She isn’t your friend and she will end up with no one if she acts like that with everyone. Not your problem though

Rosewood017 · 11/04/2021 23:47

Good for you speaking up. This woman is a drain friend. I have often drawn people like this as friends because I'm not a natural conversationalist and people mistake that for me being a good listener Smile

It makes them easy to be around at first but in time you start to picture a YouTube style scroll bar, that you wish you could tap to see how much longer there is left of them talking. That's not a friendship, that's narcissism.

iliveinhope24 · 11/04/2021 23:52

But do you think it's my fault? As in-- I should have told her "sorry, I have to go now". She probably thought I had the time to talk....

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Rosewood017 · 12/04/2021 00:00

@iliveinhope24

But do you think it's my fault? As in-- I should have told her "sorry, I have to go now". She probably thought I had the time to talk....
No. You tried letting the conversation end organically for a while. Then when it got too much you were honest when she called and said you didn't have the capacity to talk but she would call back anyway.

You were being polite. By fake does she mean she'd rather you say 'you're boring the crap out of me and have no interest in any subject that's not about you'.

iliveinhope24 · 12/04/2021 00:13

Thank you Rosewood, you are right Sad. But how can I move on from this friendship. I just feel so bad off loading off all my feelings towards her, I just wish I was honest with her when they were many opportunities to do so.

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Phrenologist · 12/04/2021 00:58

You feel bad because you’re a people-pleaser who chose to endure a two-hour monologue daily from a self-obsessed bore youdonteven like rather than actually say the words ‘I need to go’ or ‘You’re boring me.’

iliveinhope24 · 12/04/2021 01:05

@Phrenologist

You feel bad because you’re a people-pleaser who chose to endure a two-hour monologue daily from a self-obsessed bore youdonteven like rather than actually say the words ‘I need to go’ or ‘You’re boring me.’
Harsh. But true (sigh).
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Phrenologist · 12/04/2021 01:07

But that also means that you can change this!

iliveinhope24 · 12/04/2021 01:10

@Phrenologist

But that also means that you can change this!
How can I? This is something I have always struggled with. What happens if my friend actually apologises and wished to rekindle the friendship?
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Plinkplonk1234 · 12/04/2021 01:11

I think you need to read up on codependent relationships.

Phrenologist · 12/04/2021 01:18

Forget your ‘friend’, who sounds as if she has all the self-awareness of a brick. Wouldn’t you rather have two hours each evening to relax, make dinner, see other friends, or pursue your own interests? Prioritise your own wishes. Why would you even consider rekindling this one sided time wasting relationship that left you, by your own account, ‘drained’,with someone who regards you as an invisible listening ear with no needs, wishes or priorities of her own?

Of course, you could accept the apology and say ‘I won’t be picking up the phone to you in the evenings any more.’

iliveinhope24 · 12/04/2021 01:29

Wow. Just had a read and had a flash bulb popping out in my head. I cannot believe it. This is entirely what our relationship was. How can I be so... silly, so stupid to continue a friendship like this. I wish I sought Mumsnet much more earlier when alarm bells were ringing.

phrenologist thank you. You are so right. I don't want to rekindle this friendship. It was draining, honestly, every conversation, I would just want to go to bed. I cannot live my life like that I cannot.

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IHateWinter88 · 12/04/2021 01:31

You need to seek some counselling or some self help books on 1) learning to value yourself and 2) standing up for yourself. You actually sound quite vulnerable because most people would not endure such suffocating behaviour from a "friend". She's not your friend. You have done nothing wrong. She likes being the centre of attention and is using you as a crutch. She sounds a bit obsessed herself because the length and frequency of the calls and texts are completely off the charts weird.

Justmoveonin · 12/04/2021 09:51

There was no way that this was going to end any better, I don't think. If it was me, and a friendship I REALLY wanted to fight for, then I'd keep trying to reach out and show that I want to be a part of her life but things need to change. But if not, which nobody would blame for, I'd just be incredibly sad that it's come to an end.

I've had friendships like this. Twice that I remember. It's so incredibly draining. Both people are still a part of my life but nothing like before. One I am strong enough to say 'hey, let's talk later because I'm doing XYZ' and they have learned (and accepted) that we will. I limit the calls to once or twice a week but it works for us. The other one I keep at a little bit more of arm's length and we only text/facebook, so we are in the loop with each other but not constantly in touch. The sad thing is that that friend really needs someone to lend an ear, but I cannot be that person right now.

RedGoldAndGreene · 12/04/2021 13:49

As a neutral bystander, what should happen now is that she reflects why two people have told her this. Ideally she'd realise that she's not been a good friend and not giving and taking.

I understand why you didn't set boundaries immediately - you probably wanted to see if the situation might resolve itself or she'd feel better and less needy after this phase.

You didn't do anything wrong apart from not say something sooner. You've been a good friend by trying to be patient and it's great that you've prioritised yourself for a change Thanks

thecatsarecrazy · 12/04/2021 20:09

Op she is an energy vampire. I have one In my life. He's a narcissist. Thankfully he doesn't call me nearly as much. It was making me feel ill. Going on about his job and money problems, last week his grandad passed away and he wouldn't reply to my messages, switched his phone off. He did call a couple of times. He never asks how I am, responds to my messages when I feel ill. Your better off without seriously

iliveinhope24 · 12/04/2021 20:33

I'm look back on our previous messages and it wasn't that bad- maybe I was over thinking, just stressed? The times when I would ask for her advice, she would advice me, suggest things for me to do....

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