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Biscuit or cake

16 replies

robneil · 11/04/2021 11:48

Having a debate about whether or not we need to create a third category for the sweet treats that don't easily sit with either biscuits, such as the rich tea, bourbon cream, or hobnob, or as a cake, such as carrot cake, Victoria sponge or chocolate brownie. Where do we place the in between products, like tunnocks tea cakes, caramels, macarons and, of course jaffa cakes. Do we, as a nation, need to decide where to classify these pesky sweet treats that do not conform to the social norms of the afternoon tea world, or do we need to come up with a 3rd category just for the in between snacks...?

OP posts:
toastofthetown · 11/04/2021 11:50

YABU

katy1213 · 11/04/2021 11:51

I'm sure HMRC have already done this to death.

robneil · 11/04/2021 11:52

Why am I being unreasonable?

OP posts:
sunflowersandbuttercups · 11/04/2021 11:52

Jaffa cakes are cakes.

"In the United Kingdom, value added tax is payable on chocolate-covered biscuits, but not on chocolate-covered cakes.[14][15] McVities defended its classification of Jaffa Cakes as cakes at a VAT tribunal in 1991, against the ruling that Jaffa cakes were biscuits due to their size and shape, and the fact that they were often eaten in place of biscuits.[16] McVities insisted that the product was a cake, and allegedly produced a giant Jaffa cake in court to illustrate its point"

"The court was adjudicated by Mr Donald Potter QC, who found in favour of McVitie's and ruled that whilst Jaffa Cakes had characteristics of both cakes and biscuits, the product should be considered a cake, meaning that VAT is not paid on Jaffa cakes in the United Kingdom.[14][20] Mr Potter QC also expressed that Jaffa Cakes were not biscuits.[21]"

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaffa_Cakes

So, there you go Grin

ComtesseDeSpair · 11/04/2021 11:53

Tunnocks tea cakes are a class of their own. Jaffa Cakes don’t deserve any kind of mention in any category. People always act like they're doing you a favour when they put them out, too. I have discovered the hill I am prepared to die on.

BestIsWest · 11/04/2021 11:55

I agree, Jaffa cakes are horrible. DH had pineapple ones from somewhere. Even more disgusting.

OwlinaTree · 11/04/2021 11:55

Tunnocks wafers and the like were put in the 'bar box' when I was growing up. Bit more fancy than a biscuit!

toastofthetown · 11/04/2021 12:00

@robneil

Why am I being unreasonable?
Because this has nothing at all to do with AIBU. There is a well used Chat board for light hearted topics. Why do you think that you might be unreasonable?
sunflowersandbuttercups · 11/04/2021 12:03

@OwlinaTree

Tunnocks wafers and the like were put in the 'bar box' when I was growing up. Bit more fancy than a biscuit!
I really want a Tunnocks Wafer now!
Lollylego · 11/04/2021 12:12

I didn't know you were the board police @toastofthetown. Or are you just bored?

SummaLuvin · 11/04/2021 12:16

YABU for starting a thread that is in the wrong board while also being boring AF...

AWamBamBoom · 11/04/2021 12:20

@toastofthetown why are you being rude? So unnecessary

Lollylego · 11/04/2021 12:23

Can someone in the know give me a definitive list of what can be discussed on AIBU?

toastofthetown · 11/04/2021 12:23

[quote AWamBamBoom]@toastofthetown why are you being rude? So unnecessary[/quote]
I haven't been rude. OP asked if they were being unreasonable and I thought that they were. That is what AIBU is for. As I said, if you don't want to told you are unreasonable, there is a well used Chat board.

TomHardyAndMe · 11/04/2021 12:33

By definition biscuits go soft when they get stale: cakes go hard when they get stale. I’m not sure whether the protective chocolate coating of a tunnocks tea cake puts it in a category of its own, as none have survived long enough in my vicinity to find out. Grin

ComtesseDeSpair · 11/04/2021 12:38

I work with the woman whose family invented the particular type of caramel that goes into a Tunnock’s Caramel Wafer.

Having written that down and read it back, I realise how odd a statement it is, and anyone is entitled to disbelieve me Grin I’m not sure what the very particular recipe is but apparently there’s something which differentiates it from normal caramel.

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