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Where are the bookshelves?!

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Babysharkdododont · 07/04/2021 20:38

Inspired by another thread, do people genuinely not believe its possible to live without shelf after shelf of books in a house, or is it, as I suspect, faux naivety / virtue signalling?

We've not got many books in our house, both adults are degree educated professionals, but feel no need to have books. When I've finished a book I pass it on, as I've no desire to read the same book twice. We've a few shelves in the study with a few technical manuals etc, but these go out of date so quickly as to be obsolete as soon as they're printed, so we go online mostly.

The dc have books of course as they don't tire quickly of rereading, but I certainly don't think we're slobs for not having lots of books.

What are these books people are so keen to keep, and tell everyone that they must have?

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IceCreamAndCandyfloss · 07/04/2021 23:01

I hate clutter so books are read and passed on but mainly only buy kindle books now as nothing to store, delivered in seconds and no transit delivery or packaging.

DrFoxtrot · 07/04/2021 23:02

@weedoogie did you make the bookshelf yourself? Or commission someone to make it for you? I would like to steal your idea!

C8H10N4O2 · 07/04/2021 23:05

I'm all for live and let live in whichever way people chose, but this sneary attitude really does rub me up the wrong way.

And yet here you are doing the same thing.

Some people are passionate about physical books, others are not.
If MN is genuinely the only place you have come across with book lovers or people opinionated about books one way or the other then you have lead a very sheltered online life.

RampantIvy · 07/04/2021 23:12

One of my bookshelves Grin

Where are the bookshelves?!
pallisers · 07/04/2021 23:13

We have a room of books - I have wanted one since I was 8 years old and went to a friend's house where they had one room completely covered in bookshelves. It has taken nearly 45 years though to get it. All our favourite books plus history/poetry that you would naturally re-read. we give away a ton of books too. plus I use the library. I don't feel superior about this. I feel lucky that I have my house the way I like it - I feel the same about my kitchen done at the same time.

I don't judge anyone who doesn't have bookshelves. Nor do I judge people who do.

What books - actual books not e-readers (which I have and love using) - is they form a connection fairly instantly. If I walk into a room and I see a Mapp and Lucia book on the shelf, I have an instant point of connection with its owner - did you read that? isn't it funny? If I see a row of Philip Roth I''ll maybe wonder if I have met a kindred spirit or not. Dh and I clicked on one of our first dates when one of us said a quote from PJ Wodehouse and the other finished it.

My dad didn't go to university. he inculcated my love of reading though. He kept his books at the bottom of his wardrobe - but he kept them.

pallisers · 07/04/2021 23:15

And meant to say books bring back memories for me - I have the book (anthony Trollope) I was reading the day dh - then boyfriend - told me he loved me. I can still remember the feeling of reading that book and then stopping and remembering that moment. I get it back a bit if I re-read the book.

TheSandman · 07/04/2021 23:22

I have thousands of books. It's not virtue signalling - no one who looked at the titles would think that for more than five seconds. I just love books. I would never tell anyone they MUST have any books or particular books. Apart from a decent dictionary.

Linguaphile · 07/04/2021 23:27

I find the not rereading anything strange. Don’t you ever get the urge to revisit a book like you would an old friend? It’s great to be able to pick a book from a shelf when you fancy it. We have too many books but they are definitely not for show. Lots are sitting in storage until we get some more shelves built for them all.

If someone has displayed their books organised by colour, however, I do get judgy. Clearly they do not actually read very much (at least not enough to need an actual organization system) and are only using the books as ‘Look at me, I read!” decoration. That’s irritating.

On the other hand, I doubt anyone whose shelves are bowing under paperback pop culture collections is keeping those books on a shelf to show off their lofty credentials. Game of Thrones would not impress Hyacinth Bucket.

Twintub · 07/04/2021 23:27

My books are in my bedroom bookcase so no one will see them for me to be virtue signalling . I just like keeping them despite the fact I’ll probably not read them again.

Twintub · 07/04/2021 23:28

Double bad here I also rainbow colour them but been doing that for years

RampantIvy · 07/04/2021 23:30

I find the not rereading anything strange

I have reread some books, but I don't reread most books. There are some that I would like to read again though. I wouldn't mind reading The Cazalet Chronicles again. There are too many books I still want to read.

BlackAlys · 07/04/2021 23:32

@1Morewineplease

Hmmm... We have a room that has a long wall, floor to ceiling and wall to wall full of books. These shelves are double deep too , so all the books are two deep. We read A LOT and we regularly revisit old books. We see them as old friends. Some are many decades old and in a few cases. Well over a hundred years old.

It's whatever you love.

I love this post Thanks
ShesMadeATwatOfMePam · 07/04/2021 23:32

Books are lovely things

What, all of them? Even trashy romance novels? Even ones ghostwritten with z list celebrities names on? Are they lovely?

Starborn · 07/04/2021 23:36

[quote FangsForTheMemory]@LubaLuca Oh the Rightmove thing is easy to answer. Estate agents tell you to declutter for when the photographer comes round. My estate agent managed to take photographs of my flat without any books showing at all.[/quote]
Exactly. We packed up 8 tall bookcases of books and stored them in the shed and loft before we put our house on the market. Two others we half-cleared the books and added ornaments to look less cluttered.

TatianaBis · 07/04/2021 23:38

Some trashy books are ace. Even I like Riders and I don’t like horses. Barbara Erskine, Diana Gabaldon. It’s what I read when I’m ill.

Caramelsmadfuzzytail · 07/04/2021 23:42

I have a built in bookcase upstairs. It decreases with the apex of the roof. If I didn't have my kindle it would be full, possibly even doubled up. Certain authors and series of books I enjoy re reading.
Reading is my hobby.

Caramelsmadfuzzytail · 07/04/2021 23:45

I also have a series of encyclopedias of animals that was given to me 40 odd years ago.

MooseBreath · 07/04/2021 23:50

We have bookshelves for books, photos, and meaningful objects in our home. On our living room bookshelf for example, there are cookbooks, our favourite novels that are read multiple times, frequently-used reference books, framed wedding and family photos, a family-inherited shofar, a stone carving of the Eye of Horus carved by FIL, DH's great-grandfather's tobacco case, and a pipe that we bought on our honeymoon in Mexico. We'd be lost without bookcases.

RampantIvy · 07/04/2021 23:55

We also keep DVDs on our downstairs bookshelves (shock horror)

Lineofconcepcion · 08/04/2021 00:23

Anybody else when visiting someone sneak a look at what's in their bookcases. I can't resist it!

KeyboardWorriers · 08/04/2021 00:30

I dont judge someone for not having books, the world would be boring if we were all the same!

However, to answer your question, the books I would have to keep if DH forced me to choose would be...

  • old favourites (books I read and re read because they are comforting in difficult or stressful times)
  • poetry - the ones I return to again and again
  • the ones that made me think , that shifted my perspective on the world, and that often add an extra layer of richness on re-reading-like the Grapes of Wrath (as some of 100s of examples)
  • books that are still on my "really want to read but haven't had time yet" list.

Chic lit type stuff I tend to read once and then pass on to a friend

KeyboardWorriers · 08/04/2021 00:30

Definitely!.

KeyboardWorriers · 08/04/2021 00:31

@KeyboardWorriers

Definitely!.
Sorry that was in reply to @Lineofconcepcion
DramaAlpaca · 08/04/2021 00:37

I'm sure I could live without my bookshelves and my books but I don't want to. My books make me happy. I don't see books as clutter. I have a Kindle but only use it on holidays.

mytrueaccount · 08/04/2021 01:01

Leaving aside their usefulness as sound and cold insulation (I live in a terraced house!), I think that the whole having/ not having books thing is generation, cultural, and personal.

I have a lot of books. So many I am laughing at those of you on this thread who think YOU do.

But -- I'm an immigrant, spent my late childhood/teen years constantly moving about, then as an adult lived on three different continents owing to work (mine or DH's). I've had to move through various languages and stages of life too. What's I've learned are these points:

-- even in London, it's hard and expensive to get hold of certain books in some of my languages

-- in some countries (eg, I hope not too revealingly, I may point out Sweden) people are more in the habit of having lots of books than in others (eg UK, US: possibly for reason of language availability)

-- while moving around a lot makes moving books a pain (certainly I cull every time), it also makes it psychologically more necessary to have some things that make you feel grounded, weighed down (plus the mover's weight/cost of one single bed is as nothing to so many books)

-- we all have different feelings about this. Eventually, years after marrying my very British husband, I realised that my m-in-law was made nervous by the number of books in our house: to her, they felt like she was in school in an exam. To me, they felt cozy, like my walls were lined with the faces of friends. She and I both read a lot, but we feel differently about having the books around.

-- I guess if I think people lightweight readers it's mostly if they have too many nonfiction books and not enough "real" books. Fiction can be Dickens or a thriller (and Dickens was the thriller writer of his day), but nonfiction is not only NOT more important than fiction, it's usually just an extended magazine article, with facts easily googled and just as quickly forgotten; while in a crisis, whether pandemic or other, the comfort of a beloved, much-re-read, easily-re-read novel or trustworthy mystery novelist is not to be sniffed at

I use my Kindle and I also use physical books heavily. (Library not so much our local council is not good on libraries). Really key books I have on Kindle and in physical copy, sometimes multiple physical copies: the one with my notes in it that my ageing eyes find easier; the one easier to carry in my handbag on the Tube. I have had books in Kindle taken back by Amazon without refund and without notification (1984 and Animal Farm, eg?) and I get rid of 2/3 of the books I buy after reading, as I conclude I'm not that likely to reread them; but I reread a lot.

-- Reference and cookery books as some of you cite? Facts and information can be found online or copied in one page to a binder; Jane Austen or your childhood favourites you can always replace in any second-hand-bookshop (depending on how often you MUST reread them, and if you need them in the middle of the night or the middle of a pandemic), but if you do reread them often, I at least keep them till the next time I move. Art books can be replaced by Pinterest and the internet in general. But a novel that isn't so common, or one that you reread at least once a year, is worth keeping in hard copy.

-- Plus, did I say? They're great for insulating against sound and cold. And if I didn't have mine, I'd probably have a lot of rubbish clutter around to cosy things up, like (cough, cough) pot plants or tchotchkes...

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