Would you be pissed off if your smoker DH, over 50 refused the covid vaccine?

[DontBiteTheBoobThatFeedsYou]

Would you think it's selfish if they refused it?
If there's together, young at that?

I'd be more worried about the smoking in general tbh... Sorry not helpful. If he continues to smoke he's going to be at a hugely increased risk of a whole host of morbid diseases and cancers, which will dramatically shorten his lifespan unfortunately op, and that would be my worry above Covid.

Shame the NHS can’t refuse treatment to those refusing the vaccine.

Yeah I'd be really pissed off and would respect him a lot less.

Absolutely his right and I would never suggest otherwise but I'd lose all respect for him.

No. His body, his choice.

Op, it’s something to do with they think the nicotine stops the virus attaching as what it is coated with is already coated, but they don’t know and are trying to find out.

I think if he’s not willing to articulate why he’s refusing that’s quite shitty. And I’d be worried he has a smokers cough.

@Bluntness100

If there's together, young at that?

I’m sorry I’ve read this several times and can’t work out what it means?

Smoking actually provides protection, you’re less likely to get it, but if you do you get it worse. However I’d be pissed if my husband refused, he’s a non smoker as I think it’s stupid.

It depends on his reason.

Smoking does appear to provide protection according to many studies, latest of which claims "Particularly important to discuss is the finding that current smoking compared to never smoking, but not ex-smoking, was associated with a decreased risk of being seropositive and for reported infection. The association is strong, stable across age groups and sex, and exhibited a dose-response-effect"

Even the researchers tie themselves in knots trying to disprove their own findings www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.03.29.21254343v1.full.pdf (pdf)

It is thought that it's nicotine that provides the protection, blows a hole in public health telling smokers to quit though, hence very much low key.

Yes I'd be disappointed and pissed off. And a bit baffled as I don't know a single person who would refuse, or has refused, the jab. I find every thread on here about people refusing actually quite shocking as it's just not on my radar.

‘His body his choice’

Doesn’t make him any less selfish when he has other people who depend on him.

His body, his choice. Everyone is entitled to make their own risk analysis. There's nothing 'selfish' about refusing to take a medical product that's only been on the market a few months, still in emergency approval stage with no long term data yet, released in a panicked political environment. Is it also selfish not to sign up for other drug trials? It's arguable but if you're asking I believe it is not. I do see altruism in signing up to drug trials that are unpaid, but would never pressurise someone to do it.

My DH is 50s, not a smoker, but I don't get the whole thing about being pissed off if he refused to have it.
(Personal choice and all that)
For the record he's already had his but that's because he wanted to, seriously can't be doing with anyone shaming others into having the vaccine.
(Will be having mine when am eligible btw)

Not having the vaccine is selfish and idiotic.

It’s not just for you, it’s for everyone. It’s the way we can move beyond this wretched pandemic.

Ditto everyone else who said being a smoker is far more harmful to him than the risk of Covid. Its not about him though, its about protecting people around him.

@SnoogyWoo

Shame the NHS can’t refuse treatment to those refusing the vaccine.

I agree totally - they should also refuse treatment to the obese, the smokers, anyone who ‘gave themselves’ type 2 diabetes, the alcoholics, the drug addicts, anyone on benefits, all of the immigrants.

FFS

I'd think they were a bit stupid if their reason for not having it was because of something that they had read on Facebook.

I would be worried if they had a hacking smokers cough. Covid aside, I would worry about them developing heart disease, lung cancer, COPD etc.

I understand to principle that it is his body so his choice.However in these circumstances OP I would be annoyed.Furious actually. This has been a year like no other,and even those who haven't been ill or lost loved have suffered in so many ways.And how many refusing the vaccination have happily accepted furlough money?As many people being vaccinated is the only way back to any kind of normality do YANBU.

No. Its his body, nobody is required to get any medical procedure to make somebody else happy.

You're happy for your kids to live with a smoker, which affects their health, but pissed off that he won't get a vaccine that affects only his health?

I think people have got a bit obsessed now, it's not our moral duty to get vaccinated .

Shame the NHS can’t refuse treatment to those refusing the vaccine.

I will take my vaccine without hesitation when offered, but that is a dangerous path to go down.

Yes but he’s a husband and a father and with him dead or suffering long term covid, we lose him completely or to a certain extent.

You know he is more at risk getting in a car, the risks of covid are minuscule for a 50 year old, yes even one that smokes.

If it were my husband, I would try and persuade him to take the vaccine and would find whatever I could to alleviate fears, but ultimately I cannot make him and no I would not be pissed off because it is his decision.

I also cannot make it what you meant in the bizarre sentence in your first post

If there’s together, young at that..

I'd be unimpressed. But, I don't think refusing the vaccine is any more selfish than smoking. Both put him and your family at risk.

So what that it’s his choice??? Does that mean he shouldn’t be judged for his poor choice? OP can certainly judge him as will many others. It’s a selfish choice and would make me question what kind of man I was married to. To me he seems like a man making poor decisions about his health, but also selfish decisions. That would piss me off and probably make me lose respect for him.

Well smokers are generally selfish and stupid, so... 🤷🏻‍♀️

I don't understand this "his body, his choice" thing. Of course it's his choice. Nobody is planning to kidnap him and drive him to the vaccination centre. He's free to take what action he wants. And others are free to form an opinion of his actions.

Vaccinations aren't for the benefit of the individual but for all of us, so I'd be pissed off with him for being a selfish fuckwit.

I'm equally pissed off with my DSS who thinks it's all a con to make money for "Big Pharma" and won't have it, despite being T1 diabetic and at greater risk of complications if he gets Covid.

And he continued to socialise during all 3 lockdowns, too.

Of course it is ‘his body, his choice’ but our relationships with other people are based in the choices they make as they contribute to the people they are.

I couldn’t live with a smoker anyway, and wouldn’t parent with a habitual smoker.

And I am unimpressed by people who believe irrational unscientific crap. (But not at all unsympathetic to people who experience anxiety and are avoidant for that reason, or have taken an absolute idealogical stand against all vaccines and medicines).

So, one way and another, I’d be pissed off in your shoes.