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Why do people question medical stuff?

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QueenPaw · 06/04/2021 17:49

Post on FB I know from midwives saying basically "these sleep positioned/nest things are dangerous and increase SIDS risk, don't use"

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< tags friend > "these look good, should get one for Baby X"
NICU use them, they can't be that dangerous (because obviously a hospital with monitoring is the same as home)
Shouldn't sell them if they're that dangerous
I used one and my baby is fine, got to make your own choices
Nothing wrong with them, you do you hun
Then a load of laughing emojis at anyone who rightly points out all the evidence and links to it with "here come the mum police"

I'm just WTF at it. Like the midwife is actively saying these are DANGEROUS and they're all ah well, my baby, and they're fine Confused

OP posts:
CrazyKitkatLady · 08/04/2021 12:10

www.unicef.org.uk/babyfriendly/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/07/Co-sleeping-and-SIDS-A-Guide-for-Health-Professionals.pdf

Dropping the link to the UNICEF guidance for professionals here as its been quoted upthread.

Statistically if you’re following the guidance about bedding/alcohol/breastfeeding etc then cosleeping results in fewer instances of SIDS than not cosleeping does. It did used to be called cot death after all.

I think that when making guidelines they try to make it as simple as possible (hence blanket statements against cosleeping) because it’s easier to do that than to take the time to explain to people how to do it safely and what to avoid.

What should happen is that people are given quantified risks so they know how risky each option is. If sleeping in a cot alone has an X% risk, cosleeping has a Y%. A breastfed baby has a X% risk, a formula baby Y% so people can make their own choices.

Literally nothing we do is 100% safe. There was an awful case recently of a baby being killed by a car mounting the pavement but does that mean we’re all going to stay inside forever and never go for a walk? No. Because the risk of that happening is so small.

We need to give adults accurate information to make their own choices within their risk tolerance.

Aimee1987 · 08/04/2021 12:15

@crazykitkalady
Very well put. I completly agree

daffodilsandprimroses · 08/04/2021 12:17

That poor baby, that case broke my heart.

ParadiseIsland · 08/04/2021 13:08

Who on Earth GIVES chocolate to a young child when they are sat on a WHITE sofa? Shock

ParadiseIsland · 08/04/2021 13:09

Sorry wrong thread there ...

Frogartist · 08/04/2021 15:23

:59Iwouldlikesomecake

Can people stop making up that midwives only advise against things because they’re afraid of getting sued?
Sounds like they've been watching too much American TV.

Aweebawbee · 08/04/2021 15:30

The shenanigans that have gone on during the reporting of Covid deaths around the world show how data can be manipulated and misrepresented. The same thing goes on on all branches of medicine because scientist need funding and have agendas to push.

SIDS trends from Wiki:

SIDS deaths in the US decreased from 4,895 in 1992 to 2,247 in 2004.[82] But, during a similar time period, 1989 to 2004, SIDS being listed as the cause of death for sudden infant death (SID) decreased from 80% to 55%.[82] According to John Kattwinkel, chairman of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) Special Task Force on SIDS "A lot of us are concerned that the rate (of SIDS) isn't decreasing significantly, but that a lot of it is just code shifting".[82]

Aimee1987 · 08/04/2021 16:28

The part about scientific reporting is very true. I didnt realise that about the sids reporting very interesting.
Another major issue is science is the lack of negative reporting which means even when studies find no correlation they often dont get published.
It's something that the journals are trying to adress but still quite a slog to get a negative study published.

nitsandwormsdodger · 08/04/2021 16:43

Often fake news and people claiming to be medical professionals when they are not especially on FB
Also HV and medical staff in hospital gave me conflicting advice so hard to see it as fact

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