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To think my colleague is trying to knock my confidence?

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confidenceknockedd · 01/04/2021 11:29

We are both new and started at a similar time and have the same role. I am naturally more of careful and cautious person whereas she goes full steam ahead.

It's hard to describe as it's lots of little things but here are some examples:

  • I was engaged in one task whilst next to me was another task that needed to be done which she started to do. She then walked away to get something and came back 5 minutes later and said "oh did you not do X yet?" which was obviously passive aggressive when it's obvious just by looking that X hadn't been done. She had started doing it and I had been standing nearby busy doing something else, so why would I have stopped mid-task and started doing X?
  • For one of our tasks we have been told to be careful with a particular aspect and check it carefully. I was checking it, around 30 seconds later she said "it's never gonna be perfect you know" and I responded "I know, I'm just quickly checking it over". I feel like I have to justify everything I do to her. I wasn't taking a particularly long time to do it or anything, but it's an important aspect which we have both overlooked before and have been reminded of its importance so I wanted to ensure it was ok before continuing.
  • She also will always knockdown anything I do, especially when it's from my own initiative. She will say "you don't need to do that" all the time to me and can never just let me just do what I want. They are usually things that help us work quicker and more efficiently, even if not necessarily needed at that point in time. For example, if I have a free moment I will start preparing things for the next task and she will tell me "you don't need to do that" and imply that I'm being stupid and misunderstanding what needs to be done. It doesn't affect her at all, in fact if anything it positively impacts her by making these simpler for the next task but I don't get why she has to voice her opinion.
  • She will shoot down every suggestion I make, even when I know I'm in the right. For example, there's a procedure we need to do that takes literally 1 second but it's technically not needed, but I prefer to do it because that's what our policy says and it means anyone coming in after us to work will presume it has been done and it may mess them up and she will argue about it for several minutes and say it doesn't need to be done, she won't just let me do it even though it takes literally 1 second. I have noticed in the last few days she has started doing it now she obviously she realised with time that it's better to do it. She makes me feel really stupid and I feel like I'm constantly having to justify myself to her.
  • She often leaves me alone to do everything whilst she goes and chats with colleagues or does something less important to busy herself but then comes back and acts surprised that I haven't finished yet when I'm effectively doing a two-person job. We can't leave the office unattended and she always leaves to go chat with colleagues which makes it difficult for me to manage to take all of my breaks or even pop to the loo during the day as she just disappears and so I can't leave. Yesterday I predicted she would try and leave and so I asked if I could take a 10 minute break first and I could tell that she was so irritated. At this point I hadn't eaten anything, drunk anything or been to the loo in 7 hours and I'm not trying to be a martyr by saying that.
  • Some aspects we divide into two and do together, if I ever finish mine early I will go and help with her workload as sometimes for no fault of our own they can be more difficult and time-consuming. Whenever I happen to be taking longer she will just stand there and watch or walk away, when she can tell I'm struggling and would appreciate her help.
  • We have to take our tea breaks and lunch breaks at different times and even deciding when I want to go on my lunch is a hassle. For example, yesterday she asked when I I wanted to go for my lunch and I said around 2pm if that was ok. Rather than just say yes or no she said "why don't you just go now?" even though I had literally just got back from a tea break and didn't want my lunch yet. I then said that and said I don't mind going later on if she wants to go at 2 or does she want to take her lunch now? and tried to bend over backwards to accommodate her but she just kind of seemed to turn it into an argument and went "fine, I'll go now" in a huff which another colleague overheard, I'm not a confrontational person and felt really bad and embarrassed but I don't want to take my lunch when I've just had a drink and a snack on my tea break.
  • I realise now that I can never joke around with her. For example, as I'm new there are lots of things I have had to learn in a short space of time. One thing I learnt yesterday is that there is a much quicker and easier way of doing something I had been doing in a slightly longer, more convoluted way. I joked about how I hadn't realised we could do it this way and how much easier it makes things in a lighthearted way and she went "you didn't realise? yes we have always been able to do it this way" when I have never seen her do it that way so I'm pretty sure she was lying to save face. On a similar note, she will never admit she's made a mistake. Sometimes I leave to go get something and come back and something has been done wrong and she will deny it completely even though I hadn't even been in the room at the time so it's obvious it's her. Sometimes she will make a mistake, come back and loudly discover it which gives the impression that I was the one who made the mistake. If I ever make a mistake I will own up to it straight away.

It's strange as we get on well when chatting about non work-related things, but everyday at work I just feel like my confidence is constantly knocked by her. I accept I must also be responsible for this kind of dynamic but I don't know what exactly I am doing/saying that's wrong. I am happy to be told IABU and would appreciate insight into ways I can change to help this situation. From my perspective though, it just feels like I'm constantly having to defend and justify myself and my decisions, even silly things like when I want to take my lunch break.

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confidenceknockedd · 01/04/2021 11:55

Didn't realise how much I had written. Blush

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Cherrysoup · 01/04/2021 11:57

Your mistake is (unconsciously) seeking her approval. You do a procedure you’re meant to do, she moans. You TELL her it should be done. She wants to know when you’re going to lunch, you say about 2 if that’s ok. No, you TELL her you’re going at 2 and she needs to stop disappearing off to chat. TELL her to stop that or speak to the manager.

Every time she puts you down, tell her to mind her own business, you’re doing the correct thing and mention that you think she’s harassing you for doing the right thing. Ask her why she constantly queries you; does she think she’s in charge? MN tinkly laugh and head tilt as necessary. Stop letting her get away with this shit.

Oneeyeopen · 01/04/2021 12:04

What @Cherrysoup said exactly.

LittleOwl153 · 01/04/2021 12:09

Can youbswap to work with someone else? She sounds like hard work to me!

B33Fr33 · 01/04/2021 12:10

Absolutely. If she questions the process remind her that's the job. If she queries checking it, remind her you're both responsible for getting it right and the audit trail etc.

If she's also keen to imply all mistakes are yours I'd maintain an "error log"

Still1nLove · 01/04/2021 12:12

Stop pandering and explaining things to her. If she finishes first, just ask her to help you “can you help me with x as you’ve finished?” If she says no, you can point out that you help her when you finish first, or ask her is she going to do nothing then?
When she acts surprised that she has ‘found’ a mistake, ask her why she is surprised as it was her mistake?

Stop being so nice. Tell her at the start of the day what time you plan on taking your lunch. If she goes off, tell her to be back in x minutes so you can have your break/go to the toilet. If she isn’t back when you need her, call her or get another member of staff to get her, tell the staff member “can you please get xxxx because she’s been gone for x time/you’ve been left along for x amount of time and you haven’t had a break/need to toilet.

She is a cf

Gothichouse40 · 01/04/2021 12:14

Tell her you do your work and I will do mine, Im not a child at school and hopefully that will shut her up. If it comes to it ask her 'who made her the boss'. This person is undermining you, the more you let her get away with this nonsense, the worse it will get.

CloudFormations · 01/04/2021 12:18

She sounds like a tedious cunt. Just try and tune her out if you can!

confidenceknockedd · 01/04/2021 12:40

It's so upsetting as I see other colleagues work really well with each other and alternate who does the boring/tedious things, when they go for breaks, etc. I hate arguments and confrontation but when she was trying to get me to go on my lunch when I didn't want to I did gently defend myself but felt embarrassed that my other colleagues will have overheard it as it's just a pathetic thing to have to bicker about. That was my attempt at being more assertive with stronger boundaries and she didn't respond well...

Some things need both of us to sign our signature before we can proceed and she will wander off and forget to sign so I have to wait for her to come back and she will be frustrated I haven't made more progress even though she is the reason for the delay.

If I ever see her make a mistake I will gently highlight it or will anticipate and prevent it. I get the impression she watches me make the mistake until it's too late to prevent it and then tells me. We are meant to be a team.

She is really sociable and all our colleagues (and managers) like her and I can overhear them all chatting and laughing whilst I'm sitting in the office alone doing the work and I just feel so low.

I just constantly feel stupid, incompetent and too slow.

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GrumpyTerrier · 01/04/2021 12:54

It's not for her to let you do anything, she isnt your boss. Do what is needed. Ignore her comments. Don't justify it to her, just ignore and carry on. If she disappears for ages then comes back and comments on your work, tell her that you've been doing it alone. If she disappears and you can't get a break, tell her she needs to come back. If she does these things one more time, go to your manager about it.

confidenceknockedd · 02/04/2021 09:23

Thank you. I will work on being more assertive next week and hopefully that will help.

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ClarkeGriffin · 02/04/2021 09:47

I did only read a few examples to be honest, but she sounds lazy and like she can't be fucked doing the job properly. I wouldn't be aiming to be like her or getting her approval.

Wearywithteens · 02/04/2021 09:56

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Singingwiththepain · 02/04/2021 09:56

She sounds like a snake to me. If she's always off laughing and talking to managers and other colleagues it's because she knows she's crap at the job and trying to get on their good side, or she wants to climb that way leaving you to do the donkey work. Probably sticking the knife into you at same time.

Stand up for yourself and I would start sowing seeds at your 121 with your manager. Highlight ideas you've had so she doesn't steal the credit. And as others have said - STOP SEEKING HER APPROVAL!

Lessthanaballpark · 02/04/2021 10:03

Call her out on it every time. Tell her every time. Predict what she’s going to say. When she criticises you say “I knew you would say that”

Be prepared for some criticism so get some ready in advance.

You have nothing to lose if you do it calmly and with confidence.

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