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Was this terrible or am I overreacting? CN abuse

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foxtrotnot · 26/03/2021 00:51

Yesterday I realised something awful. It's really made me feel ill.

I come from a dysfunctional background and did not have a stable environment at home.

I have been coming to terms with this.

From the age of 5–11 I went to a school where I was bullied. I know bullying is awful for everyone who experiences it and no one should…but all through my life I have felt there was something more to it in my case. Like I wasn't seeing it right.

Last night I wrote out the things I felt were something beyond what people refer to as bullying.

The list included:
A group of bullies took turns to hold me underwater in the school swimming pool. This went on for quite a few minutes. The teacher wandered over eventually (not in a hurry) and told me off for messing around. On quite a few occasions when changing for swimming (ie. wearing underwear) the same teacher would storm into the changing rooms and scream at/humiliate me and encourage the other pupils to join in and do the same thing. I never understood what I had done wrong. When I changed schools we went to a public swimming pool, everything was fine..it got me thinking that the fact the pool at my first school was on the grounds/no members of the public around was the reason she got away with this behaviour.

This teacher constantly taunted, insulted, humiliated and ostracized me…I have no idea why. She also encouraged the rest of the class, who she was nice to, to do the same.

I told this teacher I had a sore throat and my mum had said I could go home if it got worse. By lunchtime I had lost my voice and swallowing was very painful. I was sat next to the teacher at lunch, tried to indicate I could not eat. She served me a full portion. I left it. She told me I was greedy and wasteful. It came time for pudding. Again she asked me, again I signaled and pointed to my throat. She served me a full portion. I couldn't eat it. She made me stay in the hall after lunch until I had eaten all of it. To teach me a lesson for being greedy. Since I usually could speak and also loved my food, I find it hard to believe she didn't know what she was doing. I think that's pretty cruel.

A boy who was particularly awful to me started to escalate in the things he did. Eventually the whole class would gather around and watch him physically hurt me and I would be told by everyone I had to not react to the the pain or I would be a wuss and a grass. This went far enough that he broke off the end of a pencil in my hand. As in so deep it could not be pulled out. He got away with that and he progressed to sexually assault me with another boy.

I asked/begged my parents to let me change schools. They said I had to learn to be tougher and I couldn't expect to go through life like a princess getting my own way all the time.

Eventually I started running away from school and coming back at home time. This caused me to get in huge trouble obviously, especially since I refused to answer questions about why I had done it or where I had been. Would not promise to not do it again etc. I didn't answer teachers or my parents because I didn't see how it would help my situation, Looking back I can kind of see I was almost trying to force my own expulsion from the school.

After that my parents moved me to another school. Despite supposedly being this delinquent nightmare child I settled from day 1, made friends, was never it any serious trouble, never ran away again etc. Now, I'm not saying if I had continued to behave poorly that would justify anything, just that once out of the environment I never seriously misbehaved again. was just, normal. Like everyone else. I never asked to move schools again or not go in, I loved it!

I am in my thirties now, and I have always sort of got stuck thinking about this. Why was the situation so extreme? That's the question I've always kept coming back to.

The thing is when I came home from school with that injury to my hand I told my mum exactly what had happened and begged not to have to go back. She told me not to be stupid and also refused to take me to the doctor in case my dad found out. She had persuaded my dad to put me at private school which he thought was poncy. If he found out what had happened he would use it as an excuse to move me to free school which, being very much about appearances, she didn't want. So she sterilized a needle and dug the pencil end out of my hand. It was so painful, I was screaming all the way through, it took a long time to get all the bits out…and I actually have a very high pain tolerance. She told me not to be such a wimp.

I've always thought that my parents (though not young when they had me) were just from shit backgrounds so maybe didn't understand. But now I'm older I just don't see how you can act like that. I know we all make mistakes but it seems extreme to me.

I feel like I need someone to tell me if this was bad or not because I am very confused right now. I know the bullying was bad/wrong. What's made me feel so horrified is my family didn't stop me from getting hurt further. Especially because surely if a boy hurt my hand like that and got no consequence and I was told to keep quiet...surely you don't need to be clever or a good parent to know you've just given that boy a pass to do whatever he wants to your daughter and that's sick, surely?

Basically I've always thought of the bad times at that school as a totally separate thing from my parents/home life but now I am not so sure.

YABU - It's not ideal but hardly unusual. Get over yourself.

YANBU - You feel very bad about it because it was very bad.

OP posts:
Enough4me · 26/03/2021 00:56

It's not separate, your parents clearly didn't have your best interests in mind, and weren't there for you.

I empathise, but recommend therapy and then moving on. You are an adult and have the freedom to make decisions for yourself now.

foxtrotnot · 26/03/2021 01:09

@Enough4me thank you for replying. I know I need to move on and am looking at therapy. It's just when you are very involved in a situation it's hard to see clearly.

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Enough4me · 26/03/2021 01:27

Definitely, but you can now step back.

I can more easily see how my parents could have supported me by standing back and comparing with friends' parents. Also I was talking with my teen DD recently about how I parent differently to my parents and suddenly had an unusual moment of self pride. I am a more stable and balanced parent and don't ignore, hit and shout at my DC.

Think about your strengths above your parents' weakness/mistakes.

jessstan2 · 26/03/2021 01:28

What you suffered was horrific, foxtrotnot.

It's a terrible thing to be unable to trust your parents. I couldn't trust mine, they never backed me. I came to realise there was no point in asking them for any support. To other people they appeared very supportive.

What your mother did to your already injured hand was terrible. I can't stop thinking about it.

You are an adult now but these things cut deeply. Reading your post, I could feel your pain.

At least we learned how not to be with our own children. I only had one child but was determined that his upbringing and schooling would be different to mine and happy as far as it could be.

I wish you peace for the rest of your life.

faithfulbird20 · 26/03/2021 01:31

I'm so sorry you went through that. Hopefully somewhere in their lives God will sort them out for the pain they caused you. I read a bit then skimmed through the rest because it was painful to read. Honestly I'm so sorry you had to go through that. I've been through shit times too and I just try to block it but when I do remember it's very painful.

foxtrotnot · 26/03/2021 04:41

Thank you to everyone who has replied, it's been very helpful. I got a bit overwhelmed but I will reply to people properly a bit later.

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DYWMB · 26/03/2021 04:42

That is horrible op. Do you speak to your parents?
Being humiliated, stabbed and abused is not your fault and your mum should have looked after you. Maybe her skills were not great as a parent, that's not your fault though.
I agree some counselling and some work around moving on positively from those terrible incidents.

I hope you find peace.

jessstan2 · 26/03/2021 04:51

@foxtrotnot

Thank you to everyone who has replied, it's been very helpful. I got a bit overwhelmed but I will reply to people properly a bit later.
I'm glad you've found it helpful, foxtrotnot. I must say that during this night, Mumsnet has been quite therapeutic.

You had a really rotten time. I hope you have found some happiness since then; you are still young and hopefully will be happy in the future too.

Sleep now.

minmooch · 26/03/2021 05:17

I'm so sorry you have been through this. The bullying at school was horrific. The bullying at home was also horrific.

None of what you experienced is normal.

I expected you to say you were very much older than you are. When bullying at school was more expected (never ever right though).

This cruel cruel teacher could still be teaching, could be doing this to another child. The bullying you refer to is extremely cruel, I would say abusive. I think I'd have to report this to someone ( not sure who Police?). The teacher and the school that allowed this horrific treatment of you should be made to address this.

My heart breaks for you that you didn't have a safe haven at home. Hiow lonely and frightened you must have been. I'm so sorry your parents did not provide you with the love and security that they should have.I hope you are no contact with them. If you have children of your own please never leave them alone with your parents.

I hope you find a way through this. You did not deserve the treatment you got. I hope you find your way to a full, but peaceful, life.

SummerWhisper · 26/03/2021 05:23

Both your mum and that sadistic teacher betrayed their positions of trust. If that teacher is still teaching, you could confront the school about their behaviour in a way that isn't revenge-seeking, but highlights how a school could deal with things differently and how teachers must uphold professional conduct. What she did is worthy of instant dismissal. Write to the governors. Don't expect justice, but expect to be heard. That teacher was highly unprofessional and cruel. You were not at fault. I suspect your vulnerability caused by the lack of parental support and love made you an easy target. I hope you are low or no contact with your parents. You are right; it went well beyong bullying into violence. I hope you are flourishing as an adult. You deserve happiness Flowers

Iris27 · 26/03/2021 05:27

I agree, that if you can, report.

Also people saying move on, I don't think it's that simple when you suffer something like this as a child. It moulds you into the person you are now. You are learning your worth, what behaviour is acceptable, etc. It is far reaching. If you can try to get therapy to help you unlearn this. It's good you are analysing it now, hopefully its your first steps to recovery x

AmyLou100 · 26/03/2021 05:50

that was so horrible to read op. I'm so sorry you suffered like that. So many people failed you, starting at your parents. That teacher was sadistic and vile. No wonder those kids got away with it. I'm glad though that you went to a better school. Your parents neglected you. I

IHateCoronavirus · 26/03/2021 05:53

Op you are at the start of a journey. You should never have been treated the way you were. As pp said, it was never about you. Sounds like your parents were narcissists and the teacher a psycho.
There is a wonderful book by dr Karyl McBride which might help you. Called Will I Ever Be Hood Enough? Which had been mentioned on mumsnet before. It takes you through Step by step of recognising you were the daughter of a narcissist and accepting that truth about your past, then the process of healing.
I’m using it myself and I’m finding it very useful. It is comforting to know, it wasn’t us.

Pesimistic · 26/03/2021 05:55

I'm sorry you went through that. I feel physically sick reading that. I cannot fathom how your parents didn't protect you, its not normal at all. I cannot bear to think of my children or any child suffering in the way you did. Having the mentality to want to protect your children from harm is whats normal or what should have happened. Please report if you can.

SnuggyBuggy · 26/03/2021 06:44

I was at secondary school at about the same time as you and I honestly think some school environments are very toxic. Things just get tolerated to the point where responsible adults who should know better don't even see it as anything abnormal. I couldn't believe the things that happened in plain sight and some teachers do like to join in with bullies and target the unpopular kids. Maybe they were bullies when younger or maybe they want to be seen as cool by the pupils.

What happened to you was awful and I get that you can't simply put it behind you.

RaeRaeMama · 26/03/2021 06:56

I'm so sorry, you were treated appallingly. I could kill that teacher.

Your parents really let you down, they weren't the only ones either, they're not separate.

Also, I think this is a very extreme form of bullying, very extreme. I used to have people spit at me, throw things at me, follow me home calling me names. Teachers didn't help me either. But what happened to you... what kinds of morons were running that school?? What kinds of parents were raising those children? Disgusting.

SnuggyBuggy · 26/03/2021 06:58

Parents then did seem more likely to expect you to "just get on with it" when it came to school. Nowadays I think parents can be too involved and helicopter over friendship issues but there has to be a middle ground.

Mummadeze · 26/03/2021 07:02

I really feel for you. That is not normal at all. I had a teacher victimise me for a short while and my parents reported his bad behaviour and took me out of the school. They listened to me and believed me. That is what your parents should have done. They really let you down. I hope you have loving connections with others in your life now.

Cherrysoup · 26/03/2021 07:24

Your teacher sounds horrific. I’m sorry you went through what sounds like torture.

Merename · 26/03/2021 07:32

Oh OP, your story is 100% undoubtedly one of abuse. It sounds like a part of you knows this, but you’ve received the message from adults whom you should’ve been able to trust ‘don’t be silly there’s no problem here’. Or worse, made to feel that you were the problem. So it’s absolutely natural that you are doubting yourself.

But I am so glad that you have posted, and get to hear multiple people telling you that this is absolutely not ok. You’ve experienced emotional, physical and sexual abuse at school, and emotional neglect at home. Even physical abuse in relation to what your mum did with your hand. That response was about her needs and concerns and not yours. I’m so sorry. I really think you should consider therapy. You deserve support. None of this was your fault. Flowers

Overdueanamechange · 26/03/2021 19:14

I am sorry that you were let down by the people who were supposed to have protected you. Bullying is bad enough without a teacher being the ringleader. The fact that your mum would not or could not help you just makes it so much worse. I imagine the adult involvement (or lack of) just makes it so much harder to come to terms with. I hope that charities such as Childline would make this sort of thing very rare now.
I am very pleased that you settled so quickly into the new school.
My grandmother still talks about being pulled out of her school because of appalling treatment by the nuns 70 years ago, I suppose there used to be a weird reluctance of parents to stand up to authority figures. We carry our experiences of childhood with us through our whole lives so I join the chorus in saying please seek therapy, if you have not already done so, and well done for being a survivor. Flowers

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